Speeding n Stuff

[Housey]

I went for a drive yesterday into Wales (to look at some more properties....ocifer) and the roads were full of police with cameras out trying to catch motorists. The Evo triangle is now an average camera zone and lots of other nice roads too full of cameras left right and centre. No problem as I wasn’t pushing on.

Three weeks ago I got a 60 in a 50, just sent off the paperwork for that so expect a course, my first. I sit on 3 points from 3 years back and I’ve just come under a bridge on an empty A50 dual carriageway listening to an audiobook in the inside lane and now expect another inbound police letter, again not anything big speed wise.

I get the law. I get if I’m good I don’t get a fine or points. But I do struggle that this is a good use of time all this effort to get me carrying 10mph too much on an empty dry dual carriageway.

Sad Housey is sad.

 

[Housey]

I’ve been driving for 36 years and done 3 times for speeding, all 3 pointers. Considering the cars I’ve had and ‘moments’ that’s not too bad of a record. Just lately it feels I’m coming across them every day.

 

[Housey]

I had a speed awareness course last Friday, it was not to bad really, and online which was a bonus

I am hoping that is what I get for the one I sent off this very morning. 60mph in a 50mph should allow that I hope as I’ve never had a course. The one this morning felt 80ish in a 70 so let’s see. I did one 4 weeks ago on the a34 where it felt 50 in a 40 but nothing from that one.

 

[Housey]

It's why I don't waste my money on fun cars anymore for the road. I'd be all for every road in the country being an average speed camera zone.
Want to have fun book a track day they're not expensive.
Having fun on the roads was over a good few years ago now.
Does make me laugh when people put warnings up on Facebook of police traps. Just don't speed its not difficult. Yes everyone goes over now and again but should only be by a few mph not 10mph.

I do a few track days each year and have raced in the past. As you say everyone speeds and the law doesn’t allow for “if you are only x over” really.

 

[Housey]

I posted this last year which sums up my frustrations with speed limits in in this country..

I agree with this but I cannot help but feel that some of this is a result of the speed limit setting policy in this country over the last 20 years.

Originally, outside of Motorways and dual carriageways, we had two main speed limits in the UK. The 60mph NSL and the 30mph urban speed limit. This sent a clear message - these are maximum limits and that a reasonable and competent driver should always select a speed that he or she feels is appropriate for the circumstances, subject to the maximum.

Occasionally, there will exist a situation whereby a road is unsuitable for the national speed limit for reasons that a reasonable and competent driver may not necessarily realise (ie not a usual bend or low visibility area, as any reasonable driver will adjust their speed to suit) - for example a collection of hidden junctions - and that in these situations it was right to vary the speed limit from the NSL. The reverse was also true - in some urban areas it is recognised that a safe and appropriate speed is greater than 30mph, and therefore you find roads signed as 40mph.

At some point over the last 20 years we have dispensed with these principles that the driver selects the safe speed subject to a clear and reasonable maximum and instead speed limit setting has become more arbitrary and dare I say it political - often set by local councils following pressure from residents and suchlike. This results in the ridiculous scenarios we can all think of whereby a safe, wide, well sighted road has a 50mph limit whereas the narrow, winding lanes off it all have derestriction signs. The more we do this, the more it sends a message to drivers that the correct speed is the speed limit - because hey, if it wasn't safe to do 60 then there would be a lower speed limit, right? This is I feel dangerous and the wrong approach. It attempts to take the decision over which is the right speed away from the driver and into the hands of elected officials which in some peoples eyes erodes the responsibility of the driver. Furthermore, most people will obey laws they feel are fair and just - and more random and arbitrary speed limits become the less respectful people become of them generally

Fair view I think.

Let’s take the Evo triangle....

There are parts of that where a quick car can be up around 150mph (I’m told) and frankly there is zero justification for such speeds as that is simply crazy.

I’ve said to many people who I’ve told to drive it that the fast bits are where you go slow as there is zero skill in big speed, the risk is too high and it’s not worth it.

I drove it yesterday in a car that laps the ring about as quick as a road car can and found myself thinking on the good bits 60mph is still fun. Yes in between the bends I could easily had stabbed up to 100mph but the best twisty bits are enjoyable at the speed limit.

I don’t support autobahns in the UK as the average British driver can’t drive a motorway effectively and has no concept of lane discipline so adding 120mph speed differences would be bedlam.

 

[Housey]

I have Waze and will now ensure I use it more.

 

[Housey]

Off to do NC500 in June with a group of like minds in proper metal. We will be going at 40mph at this rate.....but we will be smiling.

 

[Housey]

Sad Cuchulain is also sad, just sent my NIP off, no way to pay it online, have to send either a cheque (I don't know who uses a chequebook nowadays) or a postal order which you have to pay a hefty fee on. Everyone's cashing in but me.

2 sads

 

[Housey]

It is what it is, do to crime take the fine etc.

Everyone speeds, most will do more than the 10mph they claim on here too. I sat on a motorway once for 100 miles (measured from Devon as a bit of a test on how long I could use cruise) at 70mph (or slower for roadwork but on the limit) in cruise control. Bar lorries and the odd car everything came past me at pace, some a serious pace. Everyone speeds and just being a little bit over is still speeding. You either support the speed limits or you don't, deciding what you think is an appropriate speed is no different to me deciding for you can't get a little bit pregnant.

 

[Housey]

Vans are about the fastest things on the road.
Few even realise the limit is lower for commercial vehicles.

It has been known since I started driving over 35 years ago, that the Astramax van is the quickest vehicle on any road......ever. It is why it was used as a test mule for the Chiron (a little known fact) and why John Force uses one to get a speed kick.

 

[Housey]

Astra max has the same speed limit as a car, as it is a car derived van.

Sprinters are insane on the motorway.
@Rroff is your pickup limited to commercial vehicle speeds (legally) not that anyone bothers with them.

That’s 50mph national speed limit single carriageway
60mph national speed limit dual carriageway
70mph motorway.

I sense you are great fun at a party.

 

[Housey]

I’m not the fool driving around in a 200mph supercar on UK roads.
I bet it makes you feel so much better than everyone else doesn’t it?
(I sense that from your posts).

edit: infact most people see a car like that and think ******!

I think your posts are saying more about your own personal insecurities than mine.

 

[Housey]

Child killing monster.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Go hand yourself into the local constabulary and send the car to be crushed. You're a danger to everyone on the planet.

I have never not once ever strayed not even a single MPH above the limit.

Sorry I cant talk to you on the left, that's how it works I believe. Flash Lambo poser.

 

[Housey]

There’s no point having a car like that unless you speed, we aren’t talking a few mph here, I’m no fool, we are talking 2x the limit+

If you don’t speed then what’s the point in having it other than to massage your ego?

I get the track day thing but personally I wouldn’t want to abuse a car of that value on a track on a regular basis.

Ignorance, often accompanied by anger towards and sneering at others.

By your measure all people who buy supercars are fools. On that basis not a debate worthy of attention me thinks.