Spotify new T&Cs

They can access your contacts twice? Omg! ;-)

What photos can they access? That is a major privacy issue imo if they are doing that. Will likely cancel my spirit subscription if they are downloading my pictures.
 
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I think the third one was meant to say media files (just read the article)

glad I don't use it and to be honest will not be after reading that
 
I don't mind trading my personal information in exchange for a free service, as long as I understand what is happening (and they are *very* vague about what they will do with it).

I'm not prepared to dish up this data for a service I pay for.
 
I have no issue, with location or Facebook if I chose to link it, but photos, contacts etc... no way. Not when I pay for it, and even if free that is too much for just a music service.
 
Jesus people really can't be bothered to read can they!

“Let me be crystal clear here: If you don’t want to share this kind of information, you don’t have to. We will ask for your express permission before accessing any of this data – and we will only use it for specific purposes that will allow you to customize your Spotify experience.”
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It's opt in. The service can collect your information, but only if you let it. The new craze of deliberately misreading policies in order to get some clickbait articles out there is getting old fast.

Edit: Seems Spotify is pretty late to the party too if you read what it's competitors are already collecting.

http://www.wired.com/2015/08/spotify-clears-up-its-privacy-policy/
 
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Skeeter said:
Jesus people really can't be bothered to read can they!



It's opt in. The service can collect your information, but only if you let it. The new craze of deliberately misreading policies in order to get some clickbait articles out there is getting old fast.

Edit: Seems Spotify is pretty late to the party too if you read what it's competitors are already collecting.

http://www.wired.com/2015/08/spotify-clears-up-its-privacy-policy/
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You sure? The article says that there is no way to opt out... hence the issue. Unless the article is incorrect of course?

"Though it wasn’t clear in the first wording of its privacy update, Spotify has now said it will ask you for permission to access your photos when and if you want to upload a photo."

Now I read the article and I never saw that the first time around. Maybe it was because I was viewing on my mobile.

EDIT: So I went on the hunt for these magical opt-out privacy settings, and thus far, I have not found them. Anyone wiser than me?
 
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Sharing your personal data is all well and good, until they have a breach. Then, who will protect us?

Too many companies are harnessing our data with weak security controls exposing us to all manner of risks. We are right to raise our concerns.

Thanks OP for publicising this.
 
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You sure? The article says that there is no way to opt out... hence the issue. Unless the article is incorrect of course?

"Though it wasn’t clear in the first wording of its privacy update, Spotify has now said it will ask you for permission to access your photos when and if you want to upload a photo."

Now I read the article and I never saw that the first time around. Maybe it was because I was viewing on my mobile.

EDIT: So I went on the hunt for these magical opt-out privacy settings, and thus far, I have not found them. Anyone wiser than me?
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According to the statement on their website, the privacy policy relates to future settings that are not yet in the software.

So for example, in the future you might want to mark a playlist with a photo on your device, e.g. a friend's face for their favourite music. And you might want to search to see if any friends in your contacts also use Spotify.

My understanding is that those features aren't in the software yet, so you can't opt-out right now, and even when they are in Spotify are saying that you'll have to select that particular option for it to use that capability, but they've taken the opportunity to update their privacy policy. Problem is that the policy is quite generic, rather than saying 'if you want to upload a photo from your phone, you can, and we will then store that particular photograph'.

IMO the policy should have been clearer, but I'm sure they're far from the only company to have done this, and it seems they've been a bit unfortunate. Especially at a time when Apple is trying to destroy them.
 
I don't really see the problem myself. But I can see why some people are complaining.

So it has access to your pictures, so it can use a picture for a playlist - all good. But, can they upload/share this picture to their server/third party companies? This is where whey need to be clear.

Same with access to contacts. They need to be able to prove they aren't using/sharing the phone numbers and email addresses. - I'm not sure why they would want access to the contacts?

I still believe a lot of apps need to be open source, any vulnerability can be found and rectified. Everything is crystal clear.
 
Scougar said:
You sure? The article says that there is no way to opt out... hence the issue. Unless the article is incorrect of course?

"Though it wasn’t clear in the first wording of its privacy update, Spotify has now said it will ask you for permission to access your photos when and if you want to upload a photo."

Now I read the article and I never saw that the first time around. Maybe it was because I was viewing on my mobile.

EDIT: So I went on the hunt for these magical opt-out privacy settings, and thus far, I have not found them. Anyone wiser than me?
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It's opt in, not opt out. It's not on by default and you have a way to turn it off, it will instead ask you for permission before it does anything.
 
Jim99 said:
According to the statement on their website, the privacy policy relates to future settings that are not yet in the software.

So for example, in the future you might want to mark a playlist with a photo on your device, e.g. a friend's face for their favourite music. And you might want to search to see if any friends in your contacts also use Spotify.

My understanding is that those features aren't in the software yet, so you can't opt-out right now, and even when they are in Spotify are saying that you'll have to select that particular option for it to use that capability, but they've taken the opportunity to update their privacy policy. Problem is that the policy is quite generic, rather than saying 'if you want to upload a photo from your phone, you can, and we will then store that particular photograph'.

IMO the policy should have been clearer, but I'm sure they're far from the only company to have done this, and it seems they've been a bit unfortunate. Especially at a time when Apple is trying to destroy them.
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Skeeter said:
It's opt in, not opt out. It's not on by default and you have a way to turn it off, it will instead ask you for permission before it does anything.
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That's -sincerely- great. Thanks guys.
 
"Spotify had said in response that the changes to its privacy policy would help it "tailor improved user experience"

"The terms and conditions also state that it is up to the user to ensure that people listed in the contacts list on their handset are happy for their phone number to be shared with the music platform"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34016658

So don't forget to contact your contacts or you could be breaking the law ;)
How many companies use the same line and people believe them. It's getting just like the USA here.
 
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