st georges day

Psyk said:
But why should the UK have special treatment by being able to have several teams where as other countries that also have multiple regions with differing cultural identities only get the one? It's not like the UK is the only country that has several nations.
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England = country
Yorkshire = county, region of above country

I'm not saying Yorkshire should have its own team

BTW I don't agree with the Olympics having individual teams, but your idea of one football team is a very, very bad one.
 
Gilly said:
England = country
Yorkshire = county, region of above country

I'm not saying Yorkshire shoul dhave its own team
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But you can't say that England is a country in the same sense that say Germany is a country. It's defined as a country only in a very specific sense (so specific in fact, that I believe it only covers England and Scotland).
 
Did you see my edit BTW?

Due to the way our countries have evolved we're stuck with what we have, which is a grouping of countries rather than individuals or a simple whole.

You can't have a single UK/GB football team, there'd hardly ever be anyone but Englishmen in it. No point taking away the Taff/Mick/Jock cultural identity to play the same players.
 
Gilly said:
Did you see my edit BTW?

Due to the way our countries have evolved we're stuck with what we have, which is a grouping of countries rather than individuals or a simple whole.

You can't have a single UK/GB football team, there'd hardly ever be anyone but Englishmen in it. No point taking away the Taff/Mick/Jock cultural identity to play the same players.
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Well I can accept that there is a clear difference in cultural identity between the nations, it's just that using the word country implies a political division instead of a cultural one. Clearly the UK is a single country in the political sense.
 
VIRII said:
Google reveals many cases of councils banning flags under the guise of planning permission on homes, on health and safety grounds in the case of taxis and so on.
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I'm still not sure that it has anything (directly at least) to do with neighbouring nations which was the original point, it seems that these actions are taken by councils or whoever independently because of something they think they ought to be doing rather than any actual pressure from anyone else if your supposition that it is for "PC" reasons is correct.

However it is rather difficult to prove that councils or whoever are not banning them for solid logistical reasons, using the taxi example it would rather depend on how the flags were affixed whether I would feel safe with one on a cab I was riding in - if it is flapping loose then it could quite patently be a hazard, not just to the individual cab but also to other road users. There are also plenty of examples of housing estates who won't allow clotheslines or whatever to be erected in gardens as it "ruins" the look of the place, that isn't for "PC" reasons so it is hard to prove that flags or flagpoles are banned in various places for anything other than the reasons that the councils give.
 
Stupid PC people. The non-British part of me says: fly St Andrew's. St. George's flag whatever; I don't see how it affects me if the country wants to celebrate its identity. Heck, I'll join in too. When in Rome, do as the romans do...
 
semi-pro waster said:
using the taxi example it would rather depend on how the flags were affixed whether I would feel safe with one on a cab I was riding in - if it is flapping loose then it could quite patently be a hazard, not just to the individual cab but also to other road users.
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In St Albans the flags in question were stickers on the taxis.

Going back to the points about St George not being English those who are interested in this kind of thing might find this website a good read:

http://www.whitedragonflagofengland.com/englands-patron-saint.php
 
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