Stable in orthos, crashing in games. lol

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After people harping on about orthos, i managed to get my chip orthos stable at a reasonable 2.7ghz for a tester...

it ran for a couple of hours..

Then i started playing call of juarez later and pc froze... so i reset, played CSS for a bit... and it froze.... played fear... froze... played wow... froze lol.

so i thought sod it, went back to my 3.0ghz overclock that crashes in orthos after like 10 seconds.

Every game runs fine with no freezing or crashing.

What the hell is my pcs problem lol
 
micky1up said:
shows how pointless orthos is
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People swear by it, so there must be some good side to it i spose, however ive never found it yet.

my pc is now at 3.0ghz on stock and ive been playing games for hours etc. It hasnt skipped a beat on these settings, although orthos crashes and burns withing no time at all.

it seems odd that when i aimed for orthos stability, games became unstable as hell
 
Erm. A whole load of nonsense so far in the thread.

I don't mean to offend anyone...

Anyway.

Orthos does several things.

1) It'll test your CPU alone
2) It'll test your CPU and memory
3) It'll put enough load on to check for overheating

It will NOT

Check your chipset under load
Check your graphics card
Check the HTT
Check your graphics drivers


If Orthos was stable for 3 hours, and games crash in 1-2 minutes, then it's a problem not related to Orthos. No matter how stable a system is, if Orthos is run for long enough it'll generate an error. For some systems that could mean millions of years I guess.
 
The Halk said:
Erm. A whole load of nonsense so far in the thread.

I don't mean to offend anyone...

Anyway.

Orthos does several things.

1) It'll test your CPU alone
2) It'll test your CPU and memory
3) It'll put enough load on to check for overheating

It will NOT

Check your chipset under load
Check your graphics card
Check the HTT
Check your graphics drivers


If Orthos was stable for 3 hours, and games crash in 1-2 minutes, then it's a problem not related to Orthos. No matter how stable a system is, if Orthos is run for long enough it'll generate an error. For some systems that could mean millions of years I guess.
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Thats funny, so your saying if you run your system at stock and play games and it dosent crash, which it shouldent its stable. Then If i overclock my CPU just a bit and then play a game and it then crashes, its not my CPU causing the crash? :confused:
 
It crashed on the games i mentioned, but it was only when i had my cpu at 2.7ghz.

Im just a bit miffed by it , it seems wierd that something can run under stress for a few hours, yet lockup after a few minutes of gaming.

Surely its weird that now that it cant run orthos for more than 10 seconds, it can actually run my games for hours... yet when it ran orthos for hours, it couldnt run my games for long.

My case is obviously a strange one, im not gonna hunt for reasons because i dont mind keeping it the way it is now. Freezing in games isnt a problem with these current settings.
 
stickroad said:
Thats funny, so your saying if you run your system at stock and play games and it dosent crash, which it shouldent its stable. Then If i overclock my CPU just a bit and then play a game and it then crashes, its not my CPU causing the crash? :confused:
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No. What I'm saying is that with the CPU overclocked it can cause crashes, but Orthos won't always pick it up.
 
Did you do blend test?

whatspeed is your pci e locked to?


There are so many factors other than the cpu clock that can be causing the crash.
 
Mine is the other way round, orthos can fail immediately but its stable in games.
It can fail orthos, then I'll clock it up some more and it'll still be stable.

I still use orthos as a quick test but I decide myself if the clock is good or not. Try a program called S&M it will delibrately try to stress the cpu, psu and gpu simultaneously, orthos cant do that

http://testmem.nm.ru/soft.htm

its all in russian so use google to translate if you are inferior westerner.



I have the same motherboard, put the nb voltage on highest and stick a fan nearby
 
I would say NEITHER overclock is very stable.

The strange part is 3Ghz seems more stable (overall) than 2.7.

I would guess (not knowing the mobo) that the multiplier to the NB or RAM will auto change once you have hit a certain FSB. Hence 3Gig can have lower frequency at NB than 2.7 Gig for example.

You should try a few different tests to ascertain your WHOLE SYSTEM stability, orthos being just one of them.
 
My mate got through a stable overnight Orthos, but TDU would crash - he stuck a little bit more voltage on his RAM then it was fine :)
 
furnace said:
My mate got through a stable overnight Orthos, but TDU would crash - he stuck a little bit more voltage on his RAM then it was fine :)
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TDU crashes no matter how many hours orthos is stable :D . That's my experience anyhow, after a 24 hour run with orthos TDU can still crash within minutes...
 
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