Staples for heavy duty staple gun.

igorm · 27 Mar 2013 at 12:47

I was wondering what staples does virgin media uses for their cables (well and staple gun)? Well I know how the staples look like, but I have no clue where to find them. Plus I have a staple gun, which can eat and shoot 10-12mm cable staples, but all the staples that deep were only 7.5mm wide, which is not enough for virgin media cables (as far as I know they are 8mm in diameter).

So if you could please spec me some nice staples for my gun or otherwise both staples and staple gun that would be nice.

bitslice · 27 Mar 2013 at 12:53

eBay.
You are looking for "6-8mm round staples"

Just a normal staple with a round plastic insert to stop the staple crushing the cable.

There is a CT610 Cable Tacker to match

igorm · 28 Mar 2013 at 16:54

I don't think it will crush such a trick cable, considering the fact that you can adjust the power which a gun uses to shoot the staple with.

bitslice · 28 Mar 2013 at 20:14

Compression isn't an issue with say a telephone cable, but for coax or Ethernet it is. I guess they came up with the plastic clip idea to make installation easier, one soft bit of wood and you'd have to pull the clip back out.

Nightglow · 28 Mar 2013 at 20:29

Got a Tacwise Z3-CT60 & if you adjust the power correctly,you don't crush the cable using insulated clips.
Using the correct clips to I can cover following size of cables.

Round Cable: Ø4-6mm
Round Cable: Ø6-8mm
Flat Cable: 2.5-4mm Thick, <8mm Wide
Flat Cable: 4.5-6.3mm Thick, <10.3mm Wide

PhillyDee · 28 Mar 2013 at 20:37

While we are on the subject, my staple gun is totally missing.

Can you get ones that fire the insulated clips and normal staples?

Nightglow · 28 Mar 2013 at 20:46

This the cable tacker I have, it uses plain galvanised staples & white staples, these are just white staples without a insulated collar.
A bit confused, as they have changed product codes, since I last bought staples a few years ago.

http://www.tacwise4u.co.uk/tacwise-...-cable-tacker-metal-die-cast-tacker_pi-1.html

Staples cheaper here.http://www.transtools.co.uk/fixings...wise-ct-60-cable-staples-14mm-white-5000-pack

igorm · 29 Mar 2013 at 22:04

Thanks a lot, will get through them and check which ones will fit in my gun, othewise will obain a new gun (I have some fake crap anyway)

igorm · 29 Mar 2013 at 22:06

bitslice said:
Compression isn't an issue with say a telephone cable, but for coax or Ethernet it is. I guess they came up with the plastic clip idea to make installation easier, one soft bit of wood and you'd have to pull the clip back out.

Are you saying that if I will squeese my ethernet cable it will stop working as if it is a tube with water going through it?

Nightglow · 29 Mar 2013 at 22:18

igorm said:
Thanks a lot, will get through them and check which ones will fit in my gun, othewise will obain a new gun (I have some fake crap anyway)

I've never bother with using staples with the insulating collars, just plain white staples, much neater, almost invisible.
The Tacwise 0357 white staple should fit most other makes of cable staplers apparently.

Tacwise was formerly known as Rapesco.

bitslice · 29 Mar 2013 at 22:44

igorm said:
Are you saying that if I will squeese my ethernet cable it will stop working as if it is a tube with water going through it?

No, but it may degrade the signal integrity.
Cat6 cable is made up of twisted pair with a defined insulation thickness, crush those together and you alter the crosstalk value.
Small changes make the difference between a connection meeting spec and one that doesn't. Like a cat5 connector can be crimped with the wires in the correct holes, to do the same thing to cat6 spec the lengths of wire would have to be as tight into the connector as possible to minimise the crosstalk.
Crushing a virgin media cable would just alter the capacitance of the run, probably less overall effect, but still not ideal.

The point of the plastic clip is it doesn't crush the cable, it just holds it in place. It'll probably still work if you just nailed the cable to the wall, but this is down to if you want to do the job properly or not.