Star Wars “MCU to "Refocus” Disney making a come back?

Bigpig said:
Come on. People laughing at the numbers then straight in pointing out that it was the second most watched show on Disney…

What else does it mean? That’s it the top of the **** pile? I think we all know what it meant.
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No, I think you're jumping to conclusions. You can laugh at the numbers and still acknowledge that shows like Ashoka were among the most popular on the platform.

It's a huge leap to claim that this is someone suggesting their shows are an amazing success, especially when the only person you could find to back up your claim has said they didn't even bother watching it.

You're by far the most active poster in this thread and you seem a bit obsessed with what they're doing, posting clickbait after clickbait.
 
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We've seen folks continuously post the critics scores from sites such as rt and imdb of the slop that is made by disney (in both the Marvel and star wars universes) when they are in the high 80'/90's (which is 80% of the crap that comes out). In addition to trying to make the same god awful ***** seem far more succesful than it actually is with stuff like 'look its got a billion minutes watched, its succesful', same rubbish that's churned out in the rop/wot threads.

As much as some folks like to complain about 'negativity' in the threads accompanying any new marvel/star wars product. the same people largely glaze said shows. Hell, there's one bloke on here thst hasn't given a mcu show/movie lower than 7/10...Madness!
 
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Ayahuasca said:
No, I think you're jumping to conclusions. You can laugh at the numbers and still acknowledge that shows like Ashoka were among the most popular on the platform.

It's a huge leap to claim that this is someone suggesting their shows are an amazing success, especially when the only person you could find to back up your claim has said they didn't even bother watching it.

You're by far the most active poster in this thread and you seem a bit obsessed with what they're doing, posting clickbait after clickbait.
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It’s not a huge jump. If I picked it up wrong then I apologise.

If someone claiming a show is one of the most watched on a platform isn’t successful then that just shows how poor Disney+ is performing.

I’m actually not as active as used to be in here and post in here as people complain about threads getting bogged down endlessly with negativity and people seem generally happy about that.

I also post plenty of articles from Varity, Deadline and Hollywood reporter.
 
Bigpig said:
It’s not a huge jump. If I picked it up wrong then I apologise.

If someone claiming a show is one of the most watched on a platform isn’t successful then that just shows how poor Disney+ is performing.
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It's a huge leap because you haven't quoted any specific posts to support your claim that not just one, but a few people have argued that their shows are amazing successes.

We know the platform underperformed that year, losing around 700,000 subscribers in the final three months. However, the poster in question wasn't claiming that Ashoka was an amazing success just because it came second in terms of viewing minutes that year. I'm pretty sure they would have watched it themselves if they thought it was a resounding success.

Everyone knows that Disney needs to do better. You can accept this while also challenging those who engage in LARPing as the critical stinker (or whichever other alt-right grifter best fits your narrative). I actually used to enjoy his content before he went off the deep end, as many do when they realise that rage-bait is lucrative.
 
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Bigpig said:
It’s not a huge jump. If I picked it up wrong then I apologise.

If someone claiming a show is one of the most watched on a platform isn’t successful then that just shows how poor Disney+ is performing.

I’m actually not as active as used to be in here and post in here as people complain about threads getting bogged down endlessly with negativity and people seem generally happy about that.

I also post plenty of articles from Varity, Deadline and Hollywood reporter.
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Honestly, if I had to summarise your posts in this thread I'd say delusional. You're posting laughing emoji at pretend users that don't exist to try and feel better beating some made up user in your head.

No one thinks anything recent of star wars has been an amazing success. The same with mcu.

Most users in this thread if not all, prob used to enjoy these 2 genres, and are losing with the turd that comes out now, even if they get good viewing figures
 
VincentHanna said:
This is the message he is referring to, weak sauce
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Can you please clarify your post? Seems others are speaking up for you and you always been pretty quick to reply to most posts.

Was it a response to posting of poor viewing numbers? What exactly did you mean? "I still didn't bother with it"?
 
Ayahuasca said:
It's a huge leap because you haven't quoted any specific posts to support your claim that not just one, but a few people have argued that their shows are amazing successes.

We know the platform underperformed that year, losing around 700,000 subscribers in the final three months. However, the poster in question wasn't claiming that Ashoka was an amazing success just because it came second in terms of viewing minutes that year. I'm pretty sure they would have watched it themselves if they thought it was a resounding success.

Everyone knows that Disney needs to do better. You can accept this while also challenging those who engage in LARPing as the critical stinker (or whichever other alt-right grifter best fits your narrative). I actually used to enjoy his content before he went off the deep end, as many do when they realise that rage-bait is lucrative.
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Now I'm pretty sure I was told 700k wasn't bad
 
unwashed potato! said:
Honestly, if I had to summarise your posts in this thread I'd say delusional. You're posting laughing emoji at pretend users that don't exist to try and feel better beating some made up user in your head.

No one thinks anything recent of star wars has been an amazing success. The same with mcu.

Most users in this thread if not all, prob used to enjoy these 2 genres, and are losing with the turd that comes out now, even if they get good viewing figures
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Glad we are all in a agreement. Disney sucks
 
Bigpig said:
Can you please clarify your post? Seems others are speaking up for you and you always been pretty quick to reply to most posts.

Was it a response to posting of poor viewing numbers? What exactly did you mean? "I still didn't bother with it"?
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It means I still didnt bother to watch it, as my friend who is really in to Star Wars said it wasn't great and from the few posts I read in the thread as well, it sounded naff.

I was just injecting some factual data in to the thread for anyone that was interested, it wasn't to say it was a success or pass judgement on whether it was good or bad.
 
Bigpig said:
Not stepping down anytime soon but looks like she’s got her replacements.

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A Disturbance In The Force: Lucasfilm's New Era Is Taking Shape, Setting Up The Biggest Star Wars Changes Since 2012

The future is taking shape.
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protégé Filoni long has been considered a golden boy. But the knock against him is that he might be too steeped in Star Wars lore and risks steering a show into dense mythology that loses a broader audience
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Who wants to tell them? :cry:
 
Gerard said:

I want to punt the pair of these Muppets in the plums, repeatedly. :mad:
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Rian Johnson seemed to go into the second movie hell bent on "subverting expectations" and throwing away everything Abrams had planned purely out of spite. That's partially speculation on my end, but we do know from Johnson and Disney that the "subversion" bit was part of it and that the story planned out initially by Abrams was a good deal different.

I didn't think TFA was a masterpiece, I had a ton of issues with it even, but I thought it had potential as a setup to something greater and was happy to see TLJ in the cinema. It was such an absolute throw away of every potentially cool aspect in TFA that I bailed out when RoS launched and refused to see it a the cinema. I saw it later on via streaming and struggled to finish, it was an unmitigated disaster that would have been better off doubling down on the mess Johnson made rather than desperately trying to "fix" the numerous critical mistakes made in the second part of the trilogy.

Frankly I also very much get the impression that Rian Johnson was sat around picking his nose while reading reddit, mad that excited fans were speculating on what might happen and decided to do the total opposite to anything anyone wanted. It's almost like he hated the franchise and wanted to do it dirty in some respect, makes me think of the writing staff for The Witcher tv series that allegedly disliked the source material.

I still wonder if R.J was diddling KK. (Kidding, kinda)
 
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Gray2233 said:
unmitigated disaster that would have been better off doubling down on the mess Johnson made rather than desperately trying to "fix" the numerous critical mistakes made in the second part of the trilogy
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The trouble is, you have to remember why jj was brought back to do RoS. The last jedi was so poorly received, Disney seemingly begged jj to return and fix the mess. So no chance jj could say, to fix this, I'll double down on rians rubbish.

Force awakens was good at the time. On reflection it's a bad movie, but that's mostly because it's a pointless film with the 2 that followed.

I won't ever understand why they never had a scene with like leia and han, why they didn't have like turn up at the end of force awakens when the light sabre goes to ray, it shohld have gone to luke instead.
 
unwashed potato! said:
The trouble is, you have to remember why jj was brought back to do RoS. The last jedi was so poorly received, Disney seemingly begged jj to return and fix the mess. So no chance jj could say, to fix this, I'll double down on rians rubbish.

Force awakens was good at the time. On reflection it's a bad movie, but that's mostly because it's a pointless film with the 2 that followed.

I won't ever understand why they never had a scene with like leia and han, why they didn't have like turn up at the end of force awakens when the light sabre goes to ray, it shohld have gone to luke instead.
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I've honestly always felt that TFA was going to be a movie judged by what followed, and unfortunately that became a harsh reckoning. It was a good set up in my mind, sure it was more or less the first movie over again but I could forgive and understand that. Kylo Ren was obsessed with Vader to the point of insanity, attempting to follow the same sort of path and his "master" appeasing that made sense in my mind.

I think the worst part of TFA specifically for me was after Han died and Chewbacca just walked past Leia as though she wasn't even there. That should have been a big ass Wookie roar and hug while they both cried at the very least, and made worse by the fact the old group never had the chance to properly reunite.

For RoS, I don't really blame Abrams for it, I think he was probably offered a hefty paycheque on the back of a few favours alongside a checklist. If they'd ran with the direction Rian Johnson took things it might have been less bad, but it would never have been good. It was not salvageable at that point, it delved into Twilight quality territory with the second movie. The only people it seemed to appeal to were those obsessed with the idea of Rey and Kylo hooking up, shockingly poor pap all round.
 
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C Kent said:
Who wants to tell them? :cry:
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They are still chasing that broader audience that they haven’t realised doesn’t exist. Then blame the original fans when rejecting the current content.

I did enjoy Andor (struggling to want to watch season two) and Goonies in space but there’s been so much damage done to the IP.
 
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