Steam app launching slow on new AM5 system

Hostile_18

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Hi all. So I built a new system, everything is going well apart from Steam is taking ages to start. From clicking the button it takes 20 seconds to launch (but then is fine). On AM4 it took about 2 seconds max. I did bring over my "Depotcache" and "UserData" folders as I have a lot of none steam games and custom art work. This never affected anything before when I formatted my AM4 platform.

I'm very careful what I install so definitely not running bloatware etc. I also tried clearing the cache in Steam options.

My specs are;
7600X AMD
Nvidia 4090
32 gb DDR5 6000Mhz Kingston Fury
Rog Strix B650e-e
12000w Straight Power 11

Edit: I installed Steam again with no files carried over and same issue. Takes 20 seconds to launch, thinking its maybe a Asus motherboard issue. No other programs affected.
 
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Hey Hostile_18. Did you ever find a solution to this? I have a sneaking suspicion you hopped on the b650e-f deal that I did? The specs are there but this build has been an absolute headache lol.
 
bone696 said:
You are incredible! Thank you. Not to get off topic, but any other pesky am5 bug fixes you can think of?
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I'm surprised there isn't more information in it TBH. I'm using a Carbon WiFi x670e board now. I don't think I have an issues with AM5, is there something in particular giving you trouble?
 
Hmm integrated graphics is still enabled but steam isn't having any issues mind you device manager says windows has stopped this device "because it has reported problems". I was having problems with steam recently though and got so tired of it I did a clean install of steam which seems to have cured that and pepped it up nicely it does seem to grind to halt/accumulate problems over time with its constant updates. Pity it wouldnt' recognise my existing games though and insisted on redownloading everything all over again (Starfield took 3 days on my paltry connection)
 
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Hostile_18 said:
I'm surprised there isn't more information in it TBH. I'm using a Carbon WiFi x670e board now. I don't think I have an issues with AM5, is there something in particular giving you trouble?
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mainly the insane boot times with expo profile enabled.

I do have an incredibly specific issue in CS2 where the game stutters to the point it's unplayable if my pc is on too long. The only fix I've found to work is to reboot the machine.
Definitely not expecting an answer to this, however I am surprised no one I've talked to is experiencing this.
 
bone696 said:
mainly the insane boot times with expo profile enabled.

I do have an incredibly specific issue in CS2 where the game stutters to the point it's unplayable if my pc is on too long. The only fix I've found to work is to reboot the machine.
Definitely not expecting an answer to this, however I am surprised no one I've talked to is experiencing this.
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I think my boot time is 30-40 seconds. I know MSI did improve it via bios update. There are something you can do, like if yours is significantly longer maybe you have memory training on each time or some such?

I've never had a game go slow if its on to long, sounds like some kind of memory leak? Perhaps is CS2 specific.

One little tip I love is when you press control-alt-delete, go into the options and make sure "always on top" is selected. That way you can never fully crash and can always end a program.
 
Hostile_18 said:
I think my boot time is 30-40 seconds. I know MSI did improve it via bios update. There are something you can do, like if yours is significantly longer maybe you have memory training on each time or some such?

I've never had a game go slow if its on to long, sounds like some kind of memory leak? Perhaps is CS2 specific.

One little tip I love is when you press control-alt-delete, go into the options and make sure "always on top" is selected. That way you can never fully crash and can always end a program.
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Agreed! I have a triple monitor setup, but typically use the WIN+→ or WIN+← to move a window. Very under utilized command haha.

Memory leak is exactly what I was thinking. Seems strange for a valve product, unless I'm out of touch.
It seems like it is stuck on memory training on each boot by the led boot sequence indicator. I think one or two of the many bios revisions made it go away, but I always like to be current. Any solution you know besides hand picking outdated bios?

Common response: "Just turn off your expo profile!"

Why would you build a supercar and not put it in sport mode?? lol
 
bone696 said:
Agreed! I have a triple monitor setup, but typically use the WIN+→ or WIN+← to move a window. Very under utilized command haha.

Memory leak is exactly what I was thinking. Seems strange for a valve product, unless I'm out of touch.
It seems like it is stuck on memory training on each boot by the led boot sequence indicator. I think one or two of the many bios revisions made it go away, but I always like to be current. Any solution you know besides hand picking outdated bios?

Common response: "Just turn off your expo profile!"

Why would you build a supercar and not put it in sport mode?? lol
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If I recall correctly there may be a setting in the bios that allows it to boot faster. It will take some exploration because I can't remember what it was called and I don't have an Asus board any more. Defo keep Expo on, it shouldn't be that causing an issue IMO.

Is your ram on the qualified vendors list for your motherboard? Perhaps there's some incompatibility.
 
Hostile_18 said:
If I recall correctly there may be a setting in the bios that allows it to boot faster. It will take some exploration because I can't remember what it was called and I don't have an Asus board any more. Defo keep Expo on, it shouldn't be that causing an issue IMO.

Is your ram on the qualified vendors list for your motherboard? Perhaps there's some incompatibility.
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Its called memory content restore, but you have to enable power down too otherwise you get BSOD's
 
bone696 said:
I remember doing that in bios past, do you have any other details on what power down is?
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Power down is a low power idle state just for the IO Controller or whatever its called on DDR5 sticks when in the OS, it does come with a slight latency performance hit, they do say that longer training is better though and not to use PD or MCR, whenever I enable MCR, PD automatically enables.

Its been a long term issue having to enable PD when using MCR, it never used to be like that, you could just get away with enabling MCR, everyone over at overclock net is complaining about it.

I really dont know why it has to retrain on every boot.
 
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Jamin280672 said:
Power down is a low power idle state just for the IO Controller or whatever its called on DDR5 sticks when in the OS, it does come with a slight latency performance hit, they do say that longer training is better though and not to use PD or MCR, whenever I enable MCR, PD automatically enables.

Its been a long term issue having to enable PD when using MCR, it never used to be like that, you could just get away with enabling MCR, everyone over at overclock net is complaining about it.

I really dont know why it has to retrain on every boot.
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Ill just live with it. Everything in the bios indicates increased stablility. Crazy thing, I built my friend an identical rig. Runs hella outdated bios. Super fast boot on expo. Couldn't replicate it with mine under the same revision hahaha.
 
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