Steve vs Linus, round 2

Gamers nexus reminds me of the old 2005-2010 geocities websites. Yes they were full of information but it wasn’t somewhere you’d spend ages on.
His idea of videos feels very similar to that of death by PowerPoint. If I wanted point by point data it’s easier to read it off a fixed website.

Linus in my opinion is the “top gear” of tech shows, it’s barely factual, it scrapes the top gives enough information mixed with entertainment to be interesting for the common person. But i wouldn’t base my entire opinion on it. It be like picking a car because Jeremy clarkson say “POWER!!!”


Gamers nexus is coming across a bit of drama for dramas sake, they seem to have decenend into overly negative content as it pulls in views.

Let’s just hope Steve has no skeletons in his closet as he’s asking for someone to dig into his life.

Think I’ll stick to Linus for a laugh, and hardware unboxed plus dewi does tech for actual reviews
 
Abraxaz1 said:
Let’s just hope Steve has no skeletons in his closet as he’s asking for someone to dig into his life.
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I've been thinking that for a while. It's all very well being holier than thou, but you better be clean as a whistle because people will be gunning for you and the second you slip up they will be all over it. You couldn't then continue to make this 'expose' style of video after that.
 
StriderX said:
I wonder what spicy noodles Rossmann has on Linus though, too bad he's not enough of a drama queen to really plug those depths.
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Does make me laugh that he's moaning at people for not speaking out publicly, whilst refusing to speak details out publicly. Wouldn't surprise me if it's all one big content move for them all - controversy breeds views. He does a lot of good work of good work on the right to repair, but has the personality of a wet sock.
 
Had a bit of a google about the stuff in the OP, left more confused than before, but definitely happy that I don't know anything about it at the same time! :D

Are these just 2 tech people having a moan at each other?
 
Freefaller said:
Had a bit of a google about the stuff in the OP, left more confused than before, but definitely happy that I don't know anything about it at the same time! :D

Are these just 2 tech people having a moan at each other?
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Yes but to make it even funnier we now have two separate camps posting in this thread defending 'their guy' and attacking 'the other guy' and I'm genuinely worried that the Graphics card sub-forum - which probably contains the worst collection of opinions I have ever had the misfortune to read - is beginning to leak into GD.
 
[FnG]magnolia said:
Yes but to make it even funnier we now have two separate camps posting in this thread defending 'their guy' and attacking 'the other guy' and I'm genuinely worried that the Graphics card sub-forum - which probably contains the worst collection of opinions I have ever had the misfortune to read - is beginning to leak into GD.
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I don't see a lot of that. I think most are aware of LMG and GN on here, their respective histories and so forth. I think most are defending common sense, fairness and what's best for consumers and the tech community. This is a bit like when two of your mates have an argument. Awkward!

Steve definitely has an agenda with his channel over the last few years. A lot of his stuff has become about trying to shame companies where they made mistakes like manufacturing or design issues or media information screw ups etc. I think he's the kind of person that likes it when his findings are negative. It adds fuel to his fire. He's definitely on the dark side of the force. I respect a lot of the stuff he's done for sure, but lately I think he's gravitated too much towards drama that is not what most of his true audience keep coming back for.
Linus has made mistakes. He is an open book and publicly admits this. I know a lot of his stuff has changed over the years and has become more about selling and sponsors, but I think he's remained fairly consistent and honest throughout. I don't think he's the kind of person/group that would focus on going after another fellow youtuber to generate income. They are big enough to not need to go there.

I barely watch either of them these days, but sometimes that's just the life of a youtuber you watch comes to an end where it no longer has value for you. I probably watch Steve more when I want to be back in the loop on buying stuff every few years. Linus is more for the lols and more "fun".
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Whether the affiliate steal is a scam or not is a grey area and I’m not sure it meets all the hallmarks of a ‘scam’.

There is an argument that honey is doing actual work in the process of your purchase via their discount code search. The way that affiliate revenue works is the last person to do some work to market/refer/influence your purchase wins the revenue. It also only takes it from people using an affiliate link, the overwhelmingly majority do not.
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But isn't it alleged Honey are/were stripping the affiliate links and 'rewriting' them to direct the kickbacks to themselves, rather than the intended creator/owner, regardless of any "work" finding or applying discount code(s) rather than Honey applying a discount code for the user/shopper and then altering the affiliate link?
If that is the case then you can see why some are suggesting they (Honey) were stealing revenue and perhaps why there's a court case (or two) backed by a few creators, which will be interesting to see how that goes.

Either way, i suspect Honey is now worth a lot less than the $4bn PayPal paid for them
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Original MegaLag video that sparked this (for anyone that cares) -
 
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visibleman said:
Honey are a bunch of *****.

But christ man, it's a 20min video - stick it on 1.5/2x and you could watch the lot whilst sitting on the can.
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It means so much, to so many for me to watch the video now - I just can't even
 
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visibleman said:
But isn't it alleged Honey are/were stripping the affiliate links and 'rewriting' them to direct the kickbacks to themselves, rather than the intended creator/owner, regardless of any "work" finding or applying discount code(s) rather than Honey applying a discount code for the user/shopper and then altering the affiliate link?
If that is the case then you can see why some are suggesting they (Honey) were stealing revenue and perhaps why there's a court case (or two) backed by a few creators, which will be interesting to see how that goes.
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It wasn’t whether they did any work or not.

If you clicked the ‘find me a discount’ button, they would re-write the tracking cookie for affiliate link you may have used (whether you knew you were using one or not). Clicking the ‘find me a discount button’ doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll have found you one though, none may exist.

If you didn’t click the button, they didn’t re-wrote the affiliate tracking cookie.

They would argue that they have the right to take any affiliate referral because they were the last entity to interact with you to influence the sale of you clicked the link.

That’s why I say it was a grey area and this element doesn’t meet all the hallmarks of a scam, particularly as the consumer isn’t impacted.

The filtering of codes in deals with retailers is different, that is shady as…

visibleman said:
Honey are a bunch of *****.

But christ man, it's a 20min video - stick it on 1.5/2x and you could watch the lot whilst sitting on the can.
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His watched it and is trolling in reference to an exchange with another poster in this thread, the :D emoji is the giveaway.
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
If you clicked the ‘find me a discount’ button, they would re-write the tracking cookie for affiliate link you may have used (whether you knew you were using one or not). Clicking the ‘find me a discount button’ doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll have found you one though, none may exist.
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I think megalag proved that even when honey knew it doesn’t have a discount code it would pop with a dismissal message just to get the affiliate link/click so it is leaning heavily to a certain shade of gray.

Also he needs to release part 2
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
I think megalag proved that even when honey knew it doesn’t have a discount code it would pop with a dismissal message just to get the affiliate link/click so it is leaning heavily to a certain shade of gray.

Also he needs to release part 2
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I know, that’s what I explained above.

If you clicked the find me a code button they re-wrote the affiliate code regardless of whether they found you one or not. If you didn’t click it, nothing changed.

The point still stands, they would argue they were the last party to interact with the potential customer before they checked out and last click takes all in affiliate world.

I don’t disagree, it’s not transparent (let’s keep it factual) but the question was whether it was a scam or not. Given scam has a specific meaning (aka a fraud, not the 2024 internet meaning that applies to everything people don’t like), you’ve got to demonstrate financial gain by criminal deception and the burden of proof is high. I don’t think it meets the definition of a fraud.

Like I said the voucher code point is a different issue, the claims they make to consumers are misleading at best.
 
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