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Since I recently purchased the XF100-400 I now realise there might arise the odd occasion when I would need to support it (on a tripod). I had my eye on the (relatively) heavy Manfroto 55 and 190 but since I now realise I would need an Arc Swiss plate, I'm going to need a compatible (tripod) or corresponding ball-head. Is it still possible to do this under two hundred quid, and if so, what with (because I don't have a clue and there are no camera shops where I live)?
 
In retrospect perhaps I ought not let the "odd occasion" dictate my purchasing choice?

Why would you use it only occasionally? You really should be aiming to use the tripod whenever possible, and only when it is not possible think about hand holding.

But I know how easy it is to be lazy!:D
 
The OIS would make me lazy . Saying that I have never had a situation where it's been practical to set up a tripod and wait for wildlife as I am always caught unawares. Aircraft would be another situation where setting up a tripod wouldnt be particularly beneficial either. Hoping to get to Mach Loop sometime.
 
Hi Ethan,

I'm off on Safari in July so went with the MeFOTO RoadTrip

Couldn't be more happier for £159

"The RoadTrip comes equipped with a Q series ball head with Arca-Swiss-style compatible QR plate, integral bubble level, separate head and pan locks and 360° pan index."

The Key Features
2-in-1 tripod and monopod with ball head
Ideal for travel
Maximum load: 8kg
Max height w/ column extended: 156.5 cm
Min height and folded length: 39 cm
Max height converted to monopod: 39cm
Sleek, stylish design
Comes with carrying case
 
The OIS would make me lazy . Saying that I have never had a situation where it's been practical to set up a tripod and wait for wildlife as I am always caught unawares. Aircraft would be another situation where setting up a tripod wouldnt be particularly beneficial either. Hoping to get to Mach Loop sometime.

Its not about waiting for wildife, you walk around with the lens attached to the tripod in search of wildlife, when you see it you splay the legs and off you go. You will want a good head, preferably a gimbal head.
 
All depends on what and where you are shooting really. Fine if you're wandering round in North America with lots of open spots. Rubbish if you're hiking through the jungle with slippery slopes all over the place. I'm sure there would be plenty of top wildlife shots missed if everyone used a tripod all of the time, they are rubbish for fast action, like monkeys or other smaller animals. Tripods have their place, but a good handholding technique, fast glass and IS/VR are also very useful.

I have the Carbon version of the roadtrip for when I'm hiking. It's not the sturdiest but holds my 120-300 (3kg) fine if used properly. A lot more portable than my 190 and 055!
 
All depends on what and where you are shooting really. Fine if you're wandering round in North America with lots of open spots. Rubbish if you're hiking through the jungle with slippery slopes all over the place. I'm sure there would be plenty of top wildlife shots missed if everyone used a tripod all of the time, they are rubbish for fast action, like monkeys or other smaller animals. Tripods have their place, but a good handholding technique, fast glass and IS/VR are also very useful.

I have the Carbon version of the roadtrip for when I'm hiking. It's not the sturdiest but holds my 120-300 (3kg) fine if used properly. A lot more portable than my 190 and 055!

Funnily enough when I was in Costa Rica a tripod was vital because it was incredibly dark, ISO 6400 and F/4.0 were yielding 1/30th second exposures.

I agree there is a time and place for hand holding and for tripod work.
If you want to maximize image quality then you will be wanting to use the tripod as much as possible whenever possible and only giving up on it when absolutely necessary. If you want to minimize weight and maximize flexibility then you leave the tripod behind. Then there is the middle ground with a monopod.

I'm just as guilty as anyone for leaving my tripod behind, even more so since getting my 300mm PF which weighs a messily 750g compared to my 2.5KG of tripod and head But now I have a 3kg Sigma 150-600 Sports hand holding is really just not an option and I dont mind because having a heavy camera+lens attached to a tripod is actually a very easy comfortable way of hiking, having the lens rest against your shoulders and th tripod and a hand counter balancing.

Anyway, I think a tripod is soemthign which you can never overspend on really. It is one of the best investments you can make in camera gear, cameras come and go and even lenses get updated frequently although to loose value or become less desirable. My old 300mm f/4.0 immediately became less useful when the PF version came in to my possession. But a decent tripod and head will last 10-15 years at least. technology doesn't change here. They are pretty simple, its not like in a few years time there will be a new tripod with extra legs, better autofocus and halve the weight. Eventually a material that is slightly better than carbon fibre will come along that offer X% less vibration and y% less weight. but it will be pretty small change.

That doesn't mean that I think you need to spend 1K on a top end setup, just that it is worth consider budget, a small stretch now may mean decent savings down the line.
 
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When I was in Costa Rica the monkeys were a pain, and I shot without a tripod, but then again I generally shot out of the canopy. Other forest/jungle places I've been it's been a mix as you say.

Really tempted by the 150-600 but at the moment I don't have the cash for it without selling the 120-300, which I don't want rid of because it's so good in forest conditions. I agree though, once the TC goes on the Sigma trying to hand hold at anything over 400mm is a pain!:p
 
Just tested my new sigma, so close to getting my dream photo of an osprey catching a fish! Bushes on the foreground ruined things though.

I was definitely a time for hand holding as the osprey was zooming over head every which way.
 
To counter my own argument I had the 120-300 on a tripod today, making (bad) distant photos of a black bear. Definitely not a dream photo! :p
 
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