Storage for Veeam Repository

blueboy2001

blueboy2001

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Just bought Veeam Backup and Replication Enterprise Plus to back up our 120 or so VM's.

Storage space used is about 14TB - but it's on NetApp so there's some dedupe and compression savings in that.

I need some storage to hold the Veeam repository. Plan is to have 2 storage appliances - one local, one at the DR site and replicate the repository between them either using Veeam, or replication native to the device.

My usual go-to cheap storage is Synology. We've got a few smaller devices around, and a RS2414 I bought last year gave us 30Tb usable for about £3k.

At the moment I'm thinking a pair of RS3614RPxs with a 10GbE card so I can hook them directly into the storage network.

Is there anything else worth considering? One supplier is getting me a price for a QSan product. The only thing that concerns me slightly is Synology don't really do proper support, but if we've got 2 we can manage without one for a few days.
 
EqualLogic SANs are currently cheaper than the PowerVault MD3 range because Dell don't like the idea of giving money to NetApp who OEM the PowerVault stuff.

IBM V3700 is also pretty cheap and has replication built-in.

And if you aren't too bothered about speed and just want something NAS with capacity then the new(ish) cheap NetApps are reasonably competitive as well.

I'd grab a Dell R720xd / 730xd with proper support and run Storage Server on it before I relied on a Synology though. I've tried Synology boxes in 'proper' environments before, and every feature you need is about 80% of the way there, which means it may as well not exist. Terrible logging, no real ability to see where performance is bottlenecking, terrible rack rails.
 
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Hi
For offsite repositories, we use Dell R720xd with 4TB disks. Tried 2012 dedupe on them, but the Veeam copy jobs don't like it so had to disable. (vbk transformation issues)

Would love to try a DR4100 after the issue with 2012 dedupe, but couldn't get the budget, plus it all fits anyway without any dedupe.
 
List price on 27TB Dell DR4100 is £39,000 with 3 years support. Even with a 60%+ discount it was still too much.

I bought the Synology RS3614RPXS, 8Gb RAM upgrade, Intel 10GbE card and 12x 4TB Western Digital Re Enterprise drives for under £5k.
 
What RAID level will you be running on the Synology? And what file system will you use? Just curious as I will be using a QNAP as a target for Veeam backups in the not too distant future (although on a much smaller scale).
 
What raid are you using on that synology? for 5k why dont you get two and put the other else where?

I'd be hot on smart reporting for that synology too, I find a QNAP will report a drive as healthy when it's actually dying and only manually looking at smart error will show it - good choice on the Re Enterprise.
 
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Running RAID 6 with a hot spare. The filesystem is ext4.

If this one performs OK we will be getting another for the DR site.

Unless it starts corrupting data, the only hassle I can see with Synology devices is the frequent software updates. Given the use this one is being put to a 10 minute reboot during the day once a month or so won't be a problem.

Not decided how we're going to set it up yet, but all it will be doing is CIFS or 1 iSCSI LUN for one server. It won't be running any packages other than the bare OS.

If it's naff I'll bin it and throw the disks in a server or something. I'll be more than happy if it lasts 3 years. We'll be binning nearly £100k worth of NetApp gear at 3 years old in a few months time. Renewing the support just isn't worth it.
 
They offer you a bit yeah, but our model has always been to move our 3 year old filer to our DR and get a new one. They will do a deal on 3 years additional support for the old one as a package with the new one.

I've been disappointed with our FAS 2240. The controllers are not powerful enough IMO, but I think we're running it towards the limits of what it's capable of in terms of IOPS at the moment. CIFS performance is awful, can't get more than 50Mb/sec out of it whatever we do. We should probably have got the next series up, but they were a good deal more expensive.

Looking at Nimble next. Their staff and resellers all seem to jumping that way ;)
 
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