Strange start problem. Needing clues!

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Before I rip my pc to bits and spend money I'd rather not! I thought I would check here to see if anyone has experienced this problem.

Over the past fortnight my pc has been increasingly hard to start.
On power up the fans and drive spin up but the cpu is'nt. No boot screen, no bios and the monitor is'nt coming on line.
To start with I just did a reset. I then had to flick the mains off and on again.
I suspected a flat cmos battery so resorted to removing it etc etc.
The constants being I always need to reset the mains pwr switch and spring is coming so it's getting warmer.
I have always managed to start the rig though even if it takes a few goes.
Today was different. No start no matter what I did. So I waited from a warm afternoon until this evening and as the temps have dropped the rig started.....!

So ideally I'd like any help to determine the cause.
I suspect the PSU. As seen from the specs below its an Enermax Infiniti 720w. When you shut down the pc it detects temps and keeps the fans blowing for up to 2min whilst the rest of the pc has shut down. It uses a temp sensor in it's case for this. Failed start ups are just like the cooling shut down mode. Ie the cpu/mobo are powered down but the fans/drives are still powered.
I find it hard to believe though that the shudown cooling function is active during boot up.
The other suspect is of course the mobo itself.
if it's warm it's simply not starting up the pc.

Once booted up there are no issues. my overclocks work and are stable and games etc are fine. It's just starting.

Has anyone had these issues?
I've had a search here and revealed nothing.

Thanks.
 
I seen a very simillar situation once with a really cheap ECS motherboard. The thing cost me about 25 quid, and ran flawlessly for 4 and half years 24/7. Then one day I had to reboot it and it did what you say, spun up and just sat there.
Weirdly if I left it for a long time, it would start. But each time it got harder and harder until it just wouldn't.
I googled and found an appanrent problem with there being really useless capacitors on the board, and found pics of some that had burst.
Sure enough I looked mine over and all the tops of the caps were bulbously byging outwards.

Had to by a new mobo :(
 
I have'nt found a solution yet on google but it appears the Enermax Infiniti PSU's are very reliable and I've not seen this problem repeated.
A mobo is an embuggerance as there are hardly any 939's around these days.
I'll google up my mobo reliability.
 
After further testing this morning (cooler than last night) it would appear temp is not an issue.
After 30min of mucking around i finally got it to boot. does'nt appear to be anything consistent apart from I reset the mains switch for longer periods. (although i have left it off for hours to no effect).

So i can't really say it's a temperature issue, just a cold boot bug.
I have deiscovered the original Asrock dual sata boards had a cold boot issue but that was fixed in bios revisions.

So any gut feelings on mobo or psu etc? Bearing in mind all the fan headers and drives are spooling up at boot including gfx card fan etc. Just no boot into bios.
I have'nt any spare kit to diagnose and 939 boards are virtualy extinct now.
Maybe time to get a cpu/mobo/ram bundle and flog the existing cpu/ram on the bay?

Naturally fixing without spending is my favourite option:)
 
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