Stubborn Little Git!!!

Don't feel tight at all he'll appreciate it one day, if not sooner then later. Chance of a lifetime! :)

Good on you for insisting he goes and not letting him pass due to typical teenage worries. He'd probably regretted it later on if he'd passed it up.

The idea that he such make his own mistakes is fair point but at same time he's still a kid really. I agree encouragement is better than force. Encouragement to me though is booking it now early and then seeing if he changes his mind later and wants to go (which he probably will and be thankful for). I doubt the OP will actually FORCE him to Switzerland.

Nice one pops!
 
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jon.bda said:
This is what we are thinking...he has a few good mates, but not a huge social circle as it were, he's quiet around people he doesn't know but i'm sure he will make new friends when the term starts...

Plus, he's a little like me...holidays, days out, visiting family...moans like hell about the thought of it, enjoys it when it happens...

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He doesn't really need a massive social circle, a few good friends will do and I'm sure he will make some by then.

If I was in his position I would go.
 
If you can afford to pay for trip then do it, don't tell him, then ask him in six months if he regrets saying no. If he does then delight him, if not and it gets too close to the time in which they're due to go then donate the place to a kid who couldn't afford to go but would still love to.
 
jon.bda said:
#2 son went to his enrolement day yesterday at college...he couldn't take one of his choosen courses as not enough people had signed up so got offered some others and he choose physics...

Going on before he mentioned that he'd been given homework already (!!!), oh...and a letter about a trip which was...to visit CERN!!!

Now when he was in school, the trips (even the overseas ones) were pretty crap to be fair...there wasn't anything which tickled his fancy at all so he didn't go on any...

Now i know his inner geek would love the thought of going there, but starting new, he won't have his mates around him and this is putting him off, even though the trip isn't until the middle of next year and he'll have made more friends in this class by then...is it wrong i've told him that he IS going?

Don't want him to miss out on this but feel a bit tight for twisting his arm and putting my parental foot down!!!

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I think being set early homework is good in some senses, yes, it doesn't allow you to completely relax in the final week or two of the holidays. But, it will prepare him for what's to come.

If the only reasons he doesn't want to go are because his previous trips have been rubbish, and he has no friends at his new place, then perhaps it would be a bit of a gamble to force him on to this trip. The reason I say that is he may make new friends, but he may also find that this trip is also rubbish.
 
edscdk said:
enroled in Physics

Does not want to go to CERN

College level...

don't bother trying to make him go, he obviously has no interest and is jsut wasting his time on the cource...

no interest = no grades = waste of time
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Sorry but that's rubbish advice.

When I was 17 I enrolled in A-Level Physics too. I had very little interest in it at the time. The only reason I chose physics is because I knew it was a respected subject and so I took it on that principle alone.

Fast forward 7 years and I'm half way through a BSc Physics degree. I'm enjoying every minute of it and I'm one of the highest achieving students on the course.

I wouldn't have had much interest in visiting CERN at the time either, but now I have aspirations of working there.
 
Smithy said:
Sorry but that's rubbish advice.

When I was 17 I enrolled in A-Level Physics too. I had very little interest in it at the time. The only reason I chose physics is because I knew it was a respected subject and so I took it on that principle alone.

Fast forward 7 years and I'm half way through a BSc Physics degree. I'm enjoying every minute of it and I'm one of the highest achieving students on the course.

I wouldn't have had much interest in visiting CERN at the time either, but now I have aspirations of working there.
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Congrats !!!

I would definitely urge your son to go, hell, could even turn out like Smithy !
 
Make him go...! I did a student exchange trip at college, me and 25 of my fellow Engineering students went to Germany. one of the best experiences of my life..... FACT!

Oh, in between drinking we did some time at a German college, a VW factory and also some 'state of the art' laser factory that could write lots of text on a strand of human hair (this was in 1999).

Good times!
 
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Tingle said:
I think being set early homework is good in some senses, yes, it doesn't allow you to completely relax in the final week or two of the holidays. But, it will prepare him for what's to come.

If the only reasons he doesn't want to go are because his previous trips have been rubbish, and he has no friends at his new place, then perhaps it would be a bit of a gamble to force him on to this trip. The reason I say that is he may make new friends, but he may also find that this trip is also rubbish.
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He hasn't been made to go on other trips when he was in school, if it seemed a bit pants and he said he didn't want to go...fair enough, he didnt...

As for friends, he'll pick up some good ones in college i'm sure, i think its just the general upheaval from school as much as anything at the moment with him.

As i say, i just do not want him to miss the chance to visit this place, i'm sure it will be amazing and he'll love it...
:)
 
I think he'll thank you for it one day. I would try to get him to go in another way though rather than by force if possible :)
 
He's coming around to it slowly..me and the missus took him and his brother out for a meal last night and the MIL came along.

Posted up on another forum about this cern trip and it was mentioned on there that due to the long shutdown of cern, at the time of the trip they should be able to do a longer tour around the facility and fair enough, dug out the itinerary for the trip and it seems they do the public tour and then later in the day a 'full' tour.

Missus said he was hanging on every word i said whilst telling the MIL about it...i personally think he's just worried about missing his PC while he's out there!!!
:D
 
King Damager said:
I think to be fair in this case, the toughness is fair...

Even if it's not something he necessarily enjoys, it's almost like going to see the Pyramids, arguably something that he should do....

Anyway, if he doesn't like that, point out that he basically gets a holiday to Switzerland?

kd
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Been twice totally over-rated.

0/10

Will not go back.
 
We went to CERN in 2006 for A-Level Physics. It was AWESOME!

They were still building it at the time, but just seeing the scale of something like that was just mind boggling!
 
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