Students, any negative views towards the constant talk of making Univeristy "More accessible"?

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I'm a student, been at uni for a few years, and am starting to get a little annoyed at the constant talk of making university "more accessible" to student of "poorer backgrounds".

Firstly I better say that I was against the tuition fees hike, although I do understand why it happened, I believe it will do nothing in the short term (5 years) to alleviate any problems. The government will have to loan the money to the universities at first anyway, and will not start seeing any money back for at LEAST 4 years, and will not make it back for decades.

In my years at uni I have received a small amount of money (~£500) from my Mum (who is better off than my Dad/Stepmum) in my first year after my loan didn't come through till Christmas (3 months of living of my summer savings).
Other than that I have got nothing from anyone..
I have a job (started this week), I run a car, have for the last year, had a job a year ago for 6 months, and worked the summer before last.
I don't need the job, but I want to keep my car and I want to go on holiday this summer with my girlfriend and my climbing club.

I know a lot of people who come from poor backgrounds, and a lot of people who come from richer backgrounds.
The talk of Universities having to spend more and more money on poorer students and the constant media attention saying "people wont be able to afford to go to university" is getting to me. And I know I am not the only one.

There is a loan for the tuition fees.
There is a maintenance loan for your living expenses.
There are already many state grants, and even more university grants for those that need them.
At Portsmouth there is even a "hardship fund", £500 if you are really struggling with money mid term. Doesn't matter how you get there, if you are struggling they will help you.

I haven't paid a PENNY towards my going to university tuition fees, I have worked yes, but because I wanted to have more luxuries, NOT because it is necessary.
And I wont pay back anything until I leave and have a job paying well enough to be able to afford it!

There is no reason for people to worry about the cost of university, the loans and grants are already out there, you don't pay a thing back till you start earning, you simply don't need to worry about it.

Its articles like this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12665503
That gets to me, why should people have to pay different amounts? Regardless of your background, you can afford to do university without any parental help whatsoever. I have proved this, and so have others I know too.

Just feels like media scaremongering, making people worried, making prospective students think they can't afford it whereas they can.

TL;DR: Media making people think they can't afford it when they can, they don't pay a penny till they finish, no parental help is needed at all, you can do it all on the maintenance loan.
 
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I'm in two minds about this. Part of me still agrees with the old fashioned view that university isn't for everyone, however I think it's fair that everyone has a chance to get a degree and have access to higher education.
It's a tough call tbh, I can't say I was pleased when I first heard about the increased hike for tuition fees, but it won't affect me (until I have kids, and even then when that time comes around the fees could be even more!)

Also, I didn't know you were at Portsmouth? What year are you in and what are you studying??

I think that everyone should have the chance to go to university, and I'm feel that if you have the drive you can, regardless of your background.
The current fees and the future fees make no discrimination of your background, anyone can go as long as you have the grades, money doesn;t play apart at all as you don't pay anything back until after. Which you should be able to afford as you have a degree and should be earning more if you tried hard enough ;)

And I'm second year here, doing Maths (did a year in Kingston, came here straight into my second year, didn't like my course last year, so changed it and am doing my second year again due to that :)
 
That's not the point. It makes a difference to public finances whether the money is given to HE or loaned to HE (individual students). A gift (the old funding system) is gone, the loan is an asset.

Very true.
I wasn't against it due to the lack of benifit it would do to the economy tbh, more the principle.
I completely understand why it was done.

Just the fact that it has gone from free before 1998, to £1000 after, to £3000 in 1994, to £9000 in 2012.
From free to £27,000 (3 year course) in 14 years.
 
That can't be BA/Bsc (hons) Architecture surely? Mine was around 35hrs/week contact time... :confused:


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I'm also in two minds - I don't think your financial background should dictate the right to go to university...

However, the degree is so diluted of value that a sharp reduction in course numbers should be implemented; there are too many graduates for available roles.

Make university elite in terms of ability and skills; not wallet.

Yep the very same.
She does a LOT of work outside of lectures etc, I am not trying to take anything away from her, she tried really really hard and does more work than me! Just the teaching time and resources doesn't compare...

Too many people go to uni, it's becoming less and less worth it, so many people I meet just shouldn't be here :/
 
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