Succession Question (in Crusader Kings II)

Howitzer

Howitzer

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Hey, anyone else playing this?
OR does anyone know their laws of succession? :P

I have a bit of a question:

Worked my way up from a Duke to be King of Ireland and Brythain. By way of marriages we also have some claims in Scotland.

My king's wife has inherited to be Duchess of Moray.

However, although my eldest son is Heir to Ireland & Brythain, my Youngest son is now Heir to Moray!
I really can't figure out why... I was hoping it would work out that my eldest would inherit both sets of titles...
(also, she is the mother of all the children)

Can anyone help me figure this out?

Cheers!
 
It depends...

firstly your law of succession will need to be primogeniture.

However, since moray is in Scotland it's De Jure Liege will be the King of Scotland not you, so whoever inherits it will pass over as a vassal to him. So your eldest son, who is heir to the Crown of Ireland, probably isn't interested in a title that makes him a vassal. Son No2 gets the gig.

Also, if Scotland has Medium (I think) Crown Authority the titles to an county or Duchy can not pass outside the Kingdom of Scotland. You will need to get a claim on the Scottish Crown and press that.
 
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Ah, I see.
I just figures someone could hold a title both under Irish and Scottish law but separately (If I'm making sense!) I suppose the game doesn't allow for two lieges on one person. I guess I'll have to let it go for now and press for a Scotland Kingdom claim later.

Thanks!
 
Howitzer said:
Ah, I see.
I just figures someone could hold a title both under Irish and Scottish law but separately (If I'm making sense!) I suppose the game doesn't allow for two lieges on one person. I guess I'll have to let it go for now and press for a Scotland Kingdom claim later.

Thanks!
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You can have more than one Crown. I had a similar gamer to yours: started in Ireland and ended up, at one point, as King of Ireland, England and Scotland (with the option to create the Kingdom of Wales). And it gets complicated because different laws are in force in the different kingdoms.

Originally, I inherited most of the north of England by marrying the Duchess of Lancaster; but despite already being King of Ireland I was sill only a Duke in England.

The problem with inheritances is that a Duchy or County will always be tied to a De Jure Kingdom, unless they rebel and achieve independence.

To add holdings to your own realm is mostly achieved through force. The circumstances need to be exactly right to gain anything other than a Claim from inheritance.
 
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