Sudden Death

vangle

vangle

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Hi,
My PC was working absolutely fine yesterday, no issues at all.
There popped up a Windows update and I set it to 'Update and Shut Down' just as I was heading to sleep for the night.
I checked on it after about 30 minutes and sure enough, it had shut itself down.

Came to turn my PC back on this morning and it won't boot at all. I don't even get a beep from the motherboard and the BIOS won't even appear.
The PC is on and running, lights on, fans running, drives active but none of the peripherals are active. Screens are both off (Dual screen) and lights on mouse, keyboard or speakers are all off.

PC Spec:
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3
AMD FX 8320
Corsair CW-9060024-WW Hydro Series H80i V2 120 mm High Performance All-In-One Liquid CPU Cooler
Physical Memory : 16384 MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
120BG SSD
1TB SSD
2x 2TB HDD
EVGA Supernova G2 650W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply

Had a read around and most of the suggestions seem to point to either a PSU or a motherboard issues. The motherboard and CPU however are much older than the PSU.
Tried all the suggestions, even to the point of disconnecting absolutely everything and then just setting up the PSU, motherboard and CPU, one stick of RAM, graphics card, screen and keyboard. All to no avail.
Anything else to try? Also, suggestions on new gear to replace if needed?

My thanks
 
Nope not at all! I though it might have been a motherboard battery issue too and took it out for 10 mins or so as I was disassembling everything before putting it back in and starting it back up.
 
Dead motherboard would be my guess but it is not a certainty. You got a good run out of that system but nothing lasts forever.

You can get cpu+mobo+ram for £300 that will make that system look like a tonka toy and everything else would be reuseable.
 
If this was my pc I'd try resetting the bios (new battery if you can), checking fuses on the plug (probably not needed here) and then if they both fail the paperclip test on the psu (although it sounds like this is working... at least on the peripherals). If the psu works then the odds are it's the motherboard, which in all honesty is most likely from what you're saying... but do a proper check on the bios with a cmos clear and battery before replacing it.
 
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Thanks for the responses! I was contemplating just getting a new motherboard set up anyway as, like you said, I've had a hell of a run with these but they could certainly do with replacing! Any suggestions for a motherboard and CPU around the £300/400 mark? Or shall I just move it over to the motherboards section?
 
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £342.37 (includes delivery: £10.50)​

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You can go for 12100f/12400f + B660 + DDR4 for around the same price and offers similar performance. Intels pricing is a bit wonky at the moment , they have raised the prices for 12th gen to try and tempt people to buy 13th gen.
 
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vangle said:
Thanks for the responses! I was contemplating just getting a new motherboard set up anyway as, like you said, I've had a hell of a run with these but they could certainly do with replacing! Any suggestions for a motherboard and CPU around the £300/400 mark? Or shall I just move it over to the motherboards section?
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What do you actually use it for?

The above AMD suggestion is pretty sound, you could even squeeze in an nvme drive if you push it to the max £400 range.. or you could go for a 5700x for 2 more cores and stay just about within £400. Really does depend on what you're going to use it for though.
 
lsg1r said:
What do you actually use it for?

The above AMD suggestion is pretty sound, you could even squeeze in an nvme drive if you push it to the max £400 range.. or you could go for a 5700x for 2 more cores and stay just about within £400. Really does depend on what you're going to use it for though.
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Mostly gaming and some light image editing but nothing too extreme
 
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vangle said:
Mostly gaming and some light image editing but nothing too extreme
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That will be fine for that, I'd maybe edge towards 8 cores (16 threads) for a bit more future proofing though... the truth is you'll likely be thinking about a gpu upgrade (and bigger psu) after the update to your cpu lol
 
Sorry it was in stock when I suggested it. Stock for B550 mobos is very scarce on OCUK, I would suggest you shop around for the one above or the Msi B550M mortar which is £10 more expensive on OCUK but also out of stock.
 
Haz123 said:
Sorry it was in stock when I suggested it. Stock for B550 mobos is very scarce on OCUK, I would suggest you shop around for the one above or the Msi B550M mortar which is £10 more expensive on OCUK but also out of stock.
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No worries! I appreciate the recommendations!

What do you think of

MSI PRO B550M-P GEN3 Motherboard, Micro-ATX, AM4 - AMD Ryzen 5000 Ready - DDR4 Boost 4400+MHz/OC, PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot, 1 x M.2 Gen3 Slot, 1G LAN​

 
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vangle said:
No worries! I appreciate the recommendations!

What do you think of

MSI PRO B550M-P GEN3 Motherboard, Micro-ATX, AM4 - AMD Ryzen 5000 Ready - DDR4 Boost 4400+MHz/OC, PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot, 1 x M.2 Gen3 Slot, 1G LAN​

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No idea, I would assume it's fine though.

I can recommend the suggested MSI AMD B550M MAG MORTAR MAX WIFI PCIe 4.0 Micro-ATX Motherboard (search for this in google) which is in stock from a competitor (can't link for obvious reasons, but ocuk needs to get some stock...) for £165. I'm using it with my 5950x, 2 nvme, 6 sata ssd and 4 sticks of ram and it's just doing it's thing happily in the background.
 
vangle said:
No worries! I appreciate the recommendations!

What do you think of

MSI PRO B550M-P GEN3 Motherboard, Micro-ATX, AM4 - AMD Ryzen 5000 Ready - DDR4 Boost 4400+MHz/OC, PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot, 1 x M.2 Gen3 Slot, 1G LAN​

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You are not ment to link to competitors on the forums so best if you remove it before a mod does.

It is the msi entry level B550 mobo and seems a little expensive. A lot of us have msi B550 mobos on here and they have in the main been excellent. I have 2 AM4 msis and a previous one in the garage that worked great for 4 years.

It is really hard to recommend because stock levels are patchy so is hard to know what is available where at a decent price. If you go for a R5 5600 then it is a very low power cpu and pretty much any B550 mobo will be just fine.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions and help! Much appreciated. Went for the 5600 for now just to save some current cost (Xmas was mean) with 8gb RAM on a MSI MAG B550M MORTAR MAX. Hopefully it fixes the issue! If not it'll be time for yet another PSU!
 
I am in the same boat. Left my machine installing Januarys windows update and the following day wouldn't stay up for 5 minutes after switching on. Even wouldn't sit in the bios screen without rebooting. Suspect a failing 3 year old RX5700XT
 
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Might be worth checking the warranty duration on it if you do need to replace it, it seems to be 7 years from what I can tell. EVGA are usually pretty good when it comes to warranties from what I've seen.
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Unfortunately I can't find the purchase information! But I've slapped in the new motherboard, hooked it all up with the new CPU and cooler, 16GB new RAM and then my old PSU and graphics card.
Still no luck though. Same issue is happening so I guess it is the PSU after all!
 
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Unfortunately I can't find the purchase information! But I've slapped in the new motherboard, hooked it all up with the new CPU and cooler, 16GB new RAM and then my old PSU and graphics card.
Still no luck though. Same issue is happening so I guess it is the PSU after all!
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Think it would be worth getting a new 650W PSU? Or future proof a touch and go for 750/850w?
 
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