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Sudden E4300 Issues I can't fathom...

Alexjrc

Alexjrc

Alexjrc

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So today my pc started freezing. I can't use it for more than 2 minutes from booting before it freezes. So I loaded the failsafe defaults of my mobo to remove all overclocking and it still happened.

I took a little peek at cpuz and it was reporting a bus multiplier of 6, rather than 9, and the voltage was all over the place, dropping whole volts here and there. It now runs at 1.2ghz I noticed that whenever the voltage peaked at what it's supposed to be, the multiplier goes back to 9 and the processor goes back to 1.8ghz. This is all happening of course, before it freezes.

Well I've exhausted every avenue I can think of currently, checking connections, playing with voltages ect. Is there something else I can try? Am I going to be forced to buy a new cpu or psu?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

2 GB Geil 800 RAM
Intel Core Duo E4300
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3
Hiper 580w PSU
nVidia 8800GTS

- Alex
 
3. In the Advanced Bios Features Menu, Disable all of the following: CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E), CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2), CPU EIST Function
4. In the PC Health Status menu, set the FAN Speed Control Method to "Legacy" & FAN Speed Control Mode to "PWM"
taken from the official ds3 thread here
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17636047
 
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Yeah I used that thread to overclock when I set this system up. That is what was causing the 6x though since I reset to defaults.

I just set my cpu in the bios to 1.45v with 300fsb x9. However when booted cpuz shows the settings to be 1.213v with 201fsb x 9.

Could this be a PSU issue? Every time I boot it kind of takes two tries. The lights come on, go off... then it all comes alive again.

I'm at a dead end since I don't have a capable PSU to use as a control.
 
which bios version are you on? i had major issues with certain bios on my ds3.
Try updating to the latest bios i found ds3 3.3 and bios F6 i think it was.
Was a dodgy bios had major issues and i had double boot issue.don't pay too much attention to cpu-z voltage reports also there's a thing called vdroop.
It's hot at the moment could anything be getting too hot ?
what are temps like
 
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Alexjrc said:
Yeah I used that thread to overclock when I set this system up. That is what was causing the 6x though since I reset to defaults.

I just set my cpu in the bios to 1.45v with 300fsb x9. However when booted cpuz shows the settings to be 1.213v with 201fsb x 9.

Could this be a PSU issue? Every time I boot it kind of takes two tries. The lights come on, go off... then it all comes alive again.

I'm at a dead end since I don't have a capable PSU to use as a control.
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look in the bios for the 'acctual' vcore settings, its lower on cpuz and speedfan than it says in the bios
 
Alexjrc said:
I took a little peek at cpuz and it was reporting a bus multiplier of 6, rather than 9, and the voltage was all over the place, dropping whole volts here and there.
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That's INTEL Enhanced Speedstep at work, don't worry about it because the system will speed up anytime you need it.

C64 said:
3. In the Advanced Bios Features Menu, Disable all of the following: CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E), CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2), CPU EIST Function
4. In the PC Health Status menu, set the FAN Speed Control Method to "Legacy" & FAN Speed Control Mode to "PWM"
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There is no reason to disable these features?
 
I took a little peek at cpuz and it was reporting a bus multiplier of 6, rather than 9, and the voltage was all over the place, dropping whole volts here and there. It now runs at 1.2ghz I noticed that whenever the voltage peaked at what it's supposed to be, the multiplier goes back to 9 and the processor goes back to 1.8ghz. This is all happening of course, before it freezes.

well from what he said there it sounded like the cpu throttling was the issue
 
Alexjrc said:
So today my pc started freezing. I can't use it for more than 2 minutes from booting before it freezes. So I loaded the failsafe defaults of my mobo to remove all overclocking and it still happened
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Could it be overheating? other than that it sounds like a hardware issue?

Made any hardware changes recently?

Maybe run memtest from a CD to see if that passes ok?
 
OK yes I was completely wrong when I said about the 6x multiplier thing. I forgot that the throttling would be back in action after resetting to defaults. However turning this off still leaves me with a freeze a few minutes after login.

This was at one point, a 3ghz 1.45v orthos stable system. The only thing I can think of since then is a bios update. What is the likelyhood that the bios may be corrupt? Would this explain the misreporting of bus speeds between bios and cpuz? I'm starting to convince myself this is a mobo issue. Would a CMOS reset be a good thing to try?

It is not overheating, it's ran a lot hotter for a lot longer before :P
 
Big.Wayne said:
Maybe run memtest from a CD to see if that passes ok?
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If its a hardware issue and not something to do with a fubared windows install then by running the memtest app direct from a bottable CD will help you eliminate the 2 GB Geil 800 RAM.
 
An unstable overclock has been known to cause a corrupt OS
If i had these issues first thing i would do is think hmm this is happening after a bios update and reflash the bios with what was previously working ok this is definately the first thing you should try would save a lot of hassle
then if no fix memtest hd tune Hdd check reinstall display drivers
run anti virus reseat everything reinstall OS
then if still happenening look at the possibility it's the hyper which have been known to have issues.
 
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remove battery

Perhaps try resetting CMOS, and if still not resolved, pull the battery out and remove power. I seen it on another thread where it resolved issues (another thread on OCUK board).

Edit it resolved issues with USB ports vanishing, so it might be a stretch to imagine it could resolve your problem. The thread suggested removing the battery for an hour, suggesting it 'resets to zero' so to speak.
 
Problem is I can't do a lot of what is mentioned because my pc won't run for long enough. I can't get safe mode to boot for some reason, it hangs on giveio.sys.

Can somebody tell me how to flash to bios version f12 from f7 without having to use windows? Can it be done via CD somehow?
 
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One pass, no errors.
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You need to leave it for longer!

The problem could be many things, is the hard disk dying?

Don't rush to flash your BIOS, take it slowly otherwise you could really bork your system (i.e make the problem worse).
 
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Problem is I can't do a lot of what is mentioned because my pc won't run for long enough. I can't get safe mode to boot for some reason, it hangs on giveio.sys.

Can somebody tell me how to flash to bios version f12 from f7 without having to use windows? Can it be done via CD somehow?

I don't even know how to find out what revision my mobo is to get the right bios. Today is a bad day for me.

Edit -

Wayne I'm going to spend all night testing various things with Ultimate Boot CD. But I'm struggling to understand why anything other than the motherboard bios would cause the complete difference in reported bios settings. Plus I am woefully out of date with bios as it is.
 
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the revision is written on the board
m8 try reinstalling windows can that be done?
if you can get into the bios and it's freezing after windows is botting i dont think it is the bios
 
I do feel like reinstalling windows but I'm not sure it would fix the issue where my processor isn't doing what I tell it to. cpuz and memtest both disagree with the settings in the bios. But since I'm 5 bios versions old, can someone explain to me how to flash bios without using windows? Best would be CD since I don't have a floppy to hand.
 
posting this?

Alexjrc said:
I do feel like reinstalling windows but I'm not sure it would fix the issue where my processor isn't doing what I tell it to. cpuz and memtest both disagree with the settings in the bios. But since I'm 5 bios versions old, can someone explain to me how to flash bios without using windows? Best would be CD since I don't have a floppy to hand.
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How are you posting these messages? A second PC?

I've looked around for a program to do manual BIOS updates but come up short so far. Is there not something on your original CDs ?

Can't find mine at the minute.
 
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