Suitable Upgrade from a Ryzen 5 3600

Saul Farrell · 5 Aug 2020 at 18:41

So as stated in the title I currently have a ryzen 5 3600 and am looking for an upgrade sometime soon. I have already upgraded to an MSI B550 Gaming Edge WiFi and have an NZXT X73 so cooling isn't really that big of an issue. Would I be better off waiting for the new 4000 series of cpu's or getting an upgrade now? Suggestions appreciated!

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Connell · 5 Aug 2020 at 18:53

I'd wait for the 4000 series. You'll likely be able to get a much more noticeable performance improvement for less.

BluesFanUK · 5 Aug 2020 at 18:58

Is there a reason you need to upgrade from 6 cores?

Your next jump is a 3900x btw, or wait for Zen 3.

Sparx · 5 Aug 2020 at 19:08

Wait for Zen 3 toward end of the year

robfosters · 5 Aug 2020 at 19:20

What exactly do you need the upgrade for? What is your PC struggling with?

CuriousTomCat · 5 Aug 2020 at 19:23

You already have a current gen CPU so no. There's higher tiers but that's something you should have considered at the time you choose the 3600. It's a bit late now since new stuff will be out soon.

The 4700 will be a logical upgrade if the 3600 is too slow but they're not released yet.

Vince · 5 Aug 2020 at 19:27

Saul Farrell said:
So as stated in the title I currently have a ryzen 5 3600 and am looking for an upgrade sometime soon. I have already upgraded to an MSI B550 Gaming Edge WiFi and have an NZXT X73 so cooling isn't really that big of an issue. Would I be better off waiting for the new 4000 series of cpu's or getting an upgrade now? Suggestions appreciated!

This surely has to be a troll? That rig can only be what a month old given it has b550? I don't get why you wouldn't have just bought the right cpu then unless you upgraded boards for some obscure reason? What do you do with the machine?

clv101 · 5 Aug 2020 at 20:12

robfosters said:
What exactly do you need the upgrade for? What is your PC struggling with?

This is key. I'm pretty interested in what regular home users are struggling with that they need more CPU power than the 3600. Is it video processing mainly?

Saul Farrell · 5 Aug 2020 at 20:25

robfosters said:
What exactly do you need the upgrade for? What is your PC struggling with?

Not really struggling, it gets the job done but takes longer, but I'd like more cores as I usually edit 4k and 8k video

Saul Farrell · 5 Aug 2020 at 20:26

Vince said:
This surely has to be a troll? That rig can only be what a month old given it has b550? I don't get why you wouldn't have just bought the right cpu then unless you upgraded boards for some obscure reason? What do you do with the machine?

Basically I got a really great deal on a used prebuilt but the only bad thing was its motherboard, so I gutted the system, put it in a new case and then upgraded the motherboard. The previous motherboard was still using PCIe 2.0 and was really limiting my speeds. I usually edit 4k and 8k video as well as some intense gaming...

Saul Farrell · 5 Aug 2020 at 20:27

clv101 said:
This is key. I'm pretty interested in what regular home users are struggling with that they need more CPU power than the 3600. Is it video processing mainly?

Yes mainly, I am a drone hobbyist and usually you record in d-log mode to edit later - all at 4k and 8k so pretty CPU intensive...

robfosters · 5 Aug 2020 at 20:27

I always said if I regularly edited 4K and 8K video, I’d go TR.

BluesFanUK · 5 Aug 2020 at 20:28

Saul Farrell said:
Not really struggling, it gets the job done but takes longer, but I'd like more cores as I usually edit 4k and 8k video

If it gets the job done then your best bet is to just ride it for a little while longer till Zen 3 is released, that's about four months tops and you may find the IPC gains actually are a genuine benefit you if you're doing 8K.

Saul Farrell · 5 Aug 2020 at 20:28

BluesFanUK said:
Is there a reason you need to upgrade from 6 cores?

Your next jump is a 3900x btw, or wait for Zen 3.

It is mainly due to the fact that I video edit quite a lot in both 4k and 8k so it would be useful to have a cpu with more cores and a higher clock speed.
I'll probably wait until the ryzen 4000 series before I upgrade. Thanks

elroberto · 5 Aug 2020 at 21:43

Probably best waiting...even though it feels like everyone's waiting for the Zen 3's and/or next gen CPU's to hit. Hopefully the new stuff will make the current gens prices drop.

Saul Farrell · 6 Aug 2020 at 09:39

elroberto said:
Probably best waiting...even though it feels like everyone's waiting for the Zen 3's and/or next gen CPU's to hit. Hopefully the new stuff will make the current gens prices drop.

Hopefully yeah. I literally just built my first PC yesterday after gutting a prebuilt that I had!

Saul Farrell · 6 Aug 2020 at 09:40

robfosters said:
I always said if I regularly edited 4K and 8K video, I’d go TR.

TR is that Thread Ripper?

MrRockliffe · 6 Aug 2020 at 09:43

Saul Farrell said:
TR is that Thread Ripper?

Yes

But unless you’re a professional, making your bread money from it, I really wouldn’t be concerned about any quicker CPUs than a 3600. The waiting time for rendering isn’t going to impact your profitability, it’s a “nice to have” for a hobby :-)

Vince · 6 Aug 2020 at 09:59

I love my TR it's a proper man sized cpu, although I can't make head nor tale of this thread, perhaps i'm just missing something but A pre build with a Ryzen 3600 and a pci-e 2 motherboard? I mean is that even a thing? PCI-e 3 sure but then you would still have masses of speed available and are unlikely to be saturating PCi-e storage. I just don't get it. Then you have the fact that on b550 you get what 1 gen 4 nvme? If I/O is your thing like it is mine (I run x399) then b550 seems a poor choice against x570.

OP - Wait for ryzen 4000 or buy a threadripper. That is pretty much the guts of it. BTW what b550 did you go for?

Armageus · 6 Aug 2020 at 10:11

Vince said:
A pre build with a Ryzen 3600 and a pci-e 2 motherboard? I mean is that even a thing?

Only for the few (<8 lanes) provide by chipsets older than 5xx series - the main quantity of PCI-E lanes are 3.0/4.0 provided by the CPU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_chipsets#AM4_chipsets