Summer Transfer Thread 24/25

Thekwango said:
you do know what a joke is, right? the poster you quoted even stated as much.
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Considering the same poster has said we're all scared after you signed a couple of players (or words to that effect) I have doubts over whether it was meant it as a joke. Besides, surely the offer of a lighthearted bet hasn't triggered you that much has it?
 
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As much as the Zubimendi stuff is far from ideal, the fact that everybody is reporting that we're unlikely to move for another 6 shows that it doesn't really change anything. It shouldn't be news that Liverpool are incredibly picky over who they sign and it's pretty clear that it's always been x or nobody and had we not gone for Zubimendi then we'd not have gone for anybody else.

I suspect we'll make a couple of signings before the window closes but I really hope the stories of us signing the Valencia keeper and loaning him out are true and we do that before signing anybody else. That will wind so many of the lunatics on twitter up.
Thekwango said:
you do know what a joke is, right? the poster you quoted even stated as much.
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Trust me, at this stage of the season Adam genuinely believes Utd are going to win the League. Around October to December he'll have done a full 180 and be depressed, claiming nobody can compete with City's money. And we then move into the final phase around March-April when rival fans are laughing at Utd and saying ETH should be sacked and Adam is stating that it's because we're scared of Utd under ETH and "when Martial and Shaw are fit they'll see what this side is capable of". He'll probably throw in a butchered stat showing that ETH has a better win rate than Pep......if we only count matches played on Thursdays vs sides with an Ethiopian left winger.
 
BaZ87 said:
As much as the Zubimendi stuff is far from ideal, the fact that everybody is reporting that we're unlikely to move for another 6 shows that it doesn't really change anything. It shouldn't be news that Liverpool are incredibly picky over who they sign and it's pretty clear that it's always been x or nobody and had we not gone for Zubimendi then we'd not have gone for anybody else.

I suspect we'll make a couple of signings before the window closes but I really hope the stories of us signing the Valencia keeper and loaning him out are true and we do that before signing anybody else. That will whine so many of the lunatics on twitter up.

Trust me, at this stage of the season Adam genuinely believes Utd are going to win the League. Around October to December he'll have done a full 180 and be depressed, claiming nobody can compete with City's money. And we then move into the final phase around March-April when rival fans are laughing at Utd and saying ETH should be sacked and Adam is stating that it's because we're scared of Utd under ETH and "when Martial and Shaw are fit they'll see what this side is capable of". He'll probably throw in a butchered stat showing that ETH has a better win rate than Pep......if we only count matches played on Thursdays vs sides with an Ethiopian left winger.
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It is just so easy to trigger these days.

Liverpool have just signed their first new manager in a decade and have backed him with nothing. It doesn't inspire confidence. You can dress it up how you want but fresh new players into a team is only a good thing. Pushing the other players to perform better and giving everyone a boost.

Do I think Man Utd can challenge Liverpool this season? I think they have a much larger chance of doing that than Arsenal and Man City who look like actual title challengers.
 
adam cool dude said:
It is just so easy to trigger these days.

Liverpool have just signed their first new manager in a decade and have backed him with nothing. It doesn't inspire confidence. You can dress it up how you want but fresh new players into a team is only a good thing. Pushing the other players to perform better and giving everyone a boost.

Do I think Man Utd can challenge Liverpool this season? I think they have a much larger chance of doing that than Arsenal and Man City who look like actual title challengers.
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Name change bet then? Unless its all bravado of course and you lack the nutsack :p
 
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adam cool dude said:
It is just so easy to trigger these days.

Liverpool have just signed their first new manager in a decade and have backed him with nothing. It doesn't inspire confidence. You can dress it up how you want but fresh new players into a team is only a good thing. Pushing the other players to perform better and giving everyone a boost.

Do I think Man Utd can challenge Liverpool this season? I think they have a much larger chance of doing that than Arsenal and Man City who look like actual title challengers.
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The whole Liverpool mantra of the FSG owners has been to only sign to improve the squad. Using a data driven analysis and metrics or was decided that only Zubimendi was an improvement over what we already had. He decided to stay at his boyhood club (and should he applauded for it IMO, we still hold Gerrard in such high regard for staying even when we were ****) so having looked at the data, no one else available was an improvement. I'd expect Bajcetic to stay, but Slot might consider Grav, Szob, Jones, Endo and Mac as enough cover, not to mention some academy players.
 
MissChief said:
The whole Liverpool mantra of the FSG owners has been to only sign to improve the squad. Using a data driven analysis and metrics or was decided that only Zubimendi was an improvement over what we already had. He decided to stay at his boyhood club (and should he applauded for it IMO, we still hold Gerrard in such high regard for staying even when we were ****) so having looked at the data, no one else available was an improvement. I'd expect Bajcetic to stay, but Slot might consider Grav, Szob, Jones, Endo and Mac as enough cover, not to mention some academy players.
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That is a silly mantra to have running a football club. I would have thought you would have a plan a, b and even c.
 
Shamikebab said:
I do wonder when the last time someone got a new manager in and didn't sign a single person. Has there been any rumours of Slot being unhappy or has he stayed quiet?
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Frank lampard couldn't make signings when he first went chelsea but that was because of the ban they had

Maybe klopp knew this was all coming and timed it perfectly, what with salah and van d both hitting end of their careers also
 
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Martynt74 said:
I think this will probably happen more in time as the recruitment moves away from the manager and it's looked at more holistically at a club level.
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Which is of course what Liverpool have already been doing and moved even more that way when they appointed Slot as our head coach, not manager. The fact that we were looking at Zubimendi as a possible 6 compared to much more physical, defensively minded players in the past few seasons shows that the manager/head coach will always have some impact on the way teams play and therefore the signings clubs make though.

Slot would have known the score when he joined and the club wasn't going to change the same approach it's had for the past 9 years or so.
adam cool dude said:
That is a silly mantra to have running a football club. I would have thought you would have a plan a, b and even c.
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Yep, look at how well all those plan b's and c's have done for Chelsea and Utd over the years.

The obsession some supporters (and seemingly clubs) have with signing players for the sake of it is plain weird. It's very easy to sign bad players but sadly it only achieves one thing and that's wasting money. Unless a club is absolutely desperate for a player in a particular position (they simply don't have the numbers for example) then why would you go out and sign somebody that's ultimately not good enough?

Liverpool were kind of desperate last season which is why we signed Endo but unless there's a long term option for the number 6 role out there for us now, why would we go out and sign another Endo now? Now Liverpool obviously work to the extreme end of the scale when it comes to identifying players that they believe will improve the side but that's because they don't want to do what Utd and Chelsea have done and waste 100s of millions on absolute rubbish.
 
Shamikebab said:
I do wonder when the last time someone got a new manager in and didn't sign a single person. Has there been any rumours of Slot being unhappy or has he stayed quiet?
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They’re not United, so probably won’t hear anything to that level.

Us on the other hand, we’ll probably know what time Ruud has a **** in the coming weeks and what toilet roll he uses.
 
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BaZ87 said:
Yep, look at how well all those plan b's and c's have done for Chelsea and Utd over the years.

The obsession some supporters (and seemingly clubs) have with signing players for the sake of it is plain weird. It's very easy to sign bad players but sadly it only achieves one thing and that's wasting money. Unless a club is absolutely desperate for a player in a particular position (they simply don't have the numbers for example) then why would you go out and sign somebody that's ultimately not good enough?

Liverpool were kind of desperate last season which is why we signed Endo but unless there's a long term option for the number 6 role out there for us now, why would we go out and sign another Endo now? Now Liverpool obviously work to the extreme end of the scale when it comes to identifying players that they believe will improve the side but that's because they don't want to do what Utd and Chelsea have done and waste 100s of millions on absolute rubbish.
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There have been plenty of times where clubs have bought plan b and c who have ended up to be fantastic signings.

OGS was a plan b after failing to sign Shearer and he won us the Treble. That is just one example.

There is a difference to panic buying and having a valid low risk plan B.
 
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adam cool dude said:
There have been plenty of times where clubs have bought plan b and c who have ended up to be fantastic signings.

OGS was a plan b after failing to sign Shearer and he won us the Treble. That is just one example.

There is a difference to panic buying and having a valid low risk plan B.
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And there are even more examples of clubs missing out on their first choice and ending up with piles of ****.

Every club will have a bar that they work to when determining whether a transfer makes sense. Liverpool have decided that the bar for big money transfers is very high and that's because the risks of spending big and getting it wrong. You only have to look at Utd's struggles with selling players to see that.

No strategy is perfect and each will have its successes and failures. You can only judge things as a whole over time and generally Liverpool have made far better use of the funds available to them than most clubs.
 
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