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Antony
Summer Transfer Window 22/23
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Hah Lyon have rejected Westham first bid for Paqueta.
Just having a deep dive in Isak stats.
Pretty outstanding and completely different than Wilson.
Wilson is excellent at running the channels but his build up play and distribution is pretty bleak.
Isak ball carries, successful dribbling and passing is miles better. It's not even close.
This alone should create more chances and make space for the likes of Maxi and Willock.
What's the true cost?
Signing on fee, Agent fee, and their wages over their contract then come back.
@The Running Man
I didn't say Antony is as good as Neymar, but on the ball he's also an exciting player to watch. Much like Saint Max.
ETH must see serious potential in him, and he ultimately knows best. He'll be well aware of the pressure if an £80m player he's pushed for doesn't work out.
I didn't say Antony is as good as Neymar, but on the ball he's also an exciting player to watch. Much like Saint Max.
ETH must see serious potential in him, and he ultimately knows best. He'll be well aware of the pressure if an £80m player he's pushed for doesn't work out.
You will always overpay when you are desperate, and when you have no champions league football or much else to offer like United at the moment. They are paying through the nose for everyone.
That leaves the question though, are player just joining for the money? Could you be left in another mercenary situation 18 months down the line?
He's the player ETH wants, there's some logic in paying another £30m to get who you actually want instead of paying £50m for someone you don't, or who is a bigger gamble.
Transfer fees, deals and wages are just huge now for everyone. Liverpool have just paid a potential £84m for Darwin Nunez who isn't a guaranteed slam dunk.
Yes, the club is run dreadfully, and we're suffering due to a complete lack of strategy or planning, but that doesn't mean everything should be written off as a negative.
Transfer fees, deals and wages are just huge now for everyone. Liverpool have just paid a potential £84m for Darwin Nunez who isn't a guaranteed slam dunk.
Yes, the club is run dreadfully, and we're suffering due to a complete lack of strategy or planning, but that doesn't mean everything should be written off as a negative.
If that's true though, then just give FDJ another £15m for his unpaid wages and get the player you've coveted all along. It's mental to try and pretend you're a functioning business being logical and sensible in some scenarios and then going to pay double a players value for the sake of it.
Is Antony really going to push us up beyond what we already have or would it make more sense to just leave it till next year. Most fans have accepted than no CL football is acceptable next year aswell as long as there's an improvement in structure and performance. We can do that without wasting money.
I think it's perfectly ok to be negative should things be deserving of it. You only have to look at the reactions of opposition fans to our transfers. Everyone on here could agree that Jesus was a good buy for Arsenal, similarly with Haaland for City or Sterling for Chelsea, most other fans would have those players at their clubs. People aren't negative for the sake of it on here (excluding Nick), but the amount of hilarity at all of Uniteds dealings are there for a reason. I don't think anyone would've taken any of our signings at their clubs for even half what we've paid.
I know we all say "Well yeah, we're United, we'll always overpay", but there has to be action to stop that being the case and this summer we've probably been even more stupid than ever.
I said that at the time, apparently it was looked at and deemed not viable for whatever reason. FDJ is an unusual situation, you've got a player who doesn't really want to leave, Barca trying to force him out but they are contracted to pay him huge sums of money for years to come, etc.
It's ok leaving it, but if he reaches new heights this coming season, they'll want £140m next year and people will just complain about that.
Transfers come down to the success of the player, pure and simple. Our transfer record is awful but I think it's right we back ETH as much as possible as he's the man who can turn things around, at least in the shorter term.
I already said things are dreadful. I am positive about what I think ETH can do, but I think the owners are a dark cloud that need shifting ASAP.
I am not going to get hung up on £30m here or £40m there when the club has been bled dry for years.
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I'd take gucci over Antony.
Or like Sancho just wait a year and get 40% discount. Let him play discontented and get him in Jan or next summer.
And try to develop some talent between now and then in terms of Amad, Elanga, Pellestri etc
Rather than get royally shafted. Let teams know we just won't over pay.
I think he just needs more options and given circumstances isn't left with many options. We're in danger of falling out of top 10 otherwise. Maybe not with Cassy joining now. Assuming he can run.
Newcastle would want a huge fee too, and he's 3 years older. Antony is already discontented and pushing for a move.
I think people need to understand that the spotlight here is immense. Your every move is scrutinised. This is not an ideal environment to bring through young inexperienced players.
Let's say ETH does as you suggest and tries to use Amad, Elanga and Pellistri and we're 12th at Christmas. He won't last 5 minutes. Money has to be ploughed in to plug some of these gaps. Despite the cost, Casemiro does that very well.
Hopefully for next summer we'll have a more coherent plan in place (where have I heard that before)...
He seems a bit of a tool to be honest. While he's decent, he's nothing special.
I was hoping we'd get Trapp in as he would provide genuine competition for De Gea and wanted to join. €25m seemed fair. Deal seems off now though.
Hopefully it puts the boot up Rashford etc as well.
I think the plan is for Sancho to play on the left, Antony on the right. Rashford and Elanga can cover either.
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If he's 12th by Xmas with the world's most expensive defence, Ca-Super-Hiro at cdm and the possibly greatest player of all time up front.
80m right winger, Sir Rashford at lw and Fred.
Then he deserves to be fired.
Teams have come top 6 before without the budget but instead a great tactical plan, which is ETH job to impose on the team.
People such as yourself will want him sacked unless he's 4th (or higher). Hence the need to reinforce now. You've already called him a fraud after 2 games.