Summer Transfer Window 22/23

Shamikebab · 4 Jul 2022 at 13:48

Is there any suggestion he's ripping everything up and starting again? If anything he seems to be happy to work with most of the existing squad.

The_One · 4 Jul 2022 at 13:54

Utd have signed a free agent and losing last seasons top goalscorer

Eth is really ripping it up :cry:

i bet tue rest of the top 8 are worried

robfosters · 4 Jul 2022 at 13:56

The_One said:
Utd have signed a free agent and losing last seasons top goalscorer

Eth is really ripping it up

Let’s not get too cocky, we’re hardly having a revolution

sigma · 4 Jul 2022 at 13:56

Hopefully he'll still be as good when he's 33. United players will drag him down to their level anyway.

Tombstone · 4 Jul 2022 at 13:58

toshj said:
Damnit! Was really hoping Eriksen would stay with us... now we've got to spend money on a replacement.

I kind of feel for Brentford really, I had hoped he would stay with Brentford. It seemed like Brentford were willing to "take a chance" on him when nobody else wanted to risk it so its a bit of a shame that he has then left so quickly. I'd have liked to see him give them one more season at least.

The_One · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:00

robfosters said:
Let’s not get too cocky, we’re hardly having a revolution

Probably because we dont need a revolution

Robbo · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:01

Shamikebab said:
Is there any suggestion he's ripping everything up and starting again? If anything he seems to be happy to work with most of the existing squad.

He does, and there is talent in the squad for sure - it just needs knitting together.

So currently we have:

Eriksen likely joining
Malacia who looks a good prospect
De Jong deal still being worked on
Martinez looking somewhat positive too

Would be excellent if they were all done by the end of the week.

robfosters said:
Let’s not get too cocky, we’re hardly having a revolution

We could win a treble and he'd still be posting nonsense as usual.

The_One · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:06

Robbo said:
He does, and there is talent in the squad for sure - it just needs knitting together.

So currently we have:

Eriksen likely joining

Malacia who looks a good prospect

De Jong deal still being worked on

Martinez looking somewhat positive too

Would be excellent if they were all done by the end of the week.

We could win a treble and he'd still be posting nonsense as usual.

Youve signed someone on a free and a backup player for the future and losing your top goalscorer

And your struggling to attract any of your top targets de jong dont even want to go to utd

Tell me how thats nonsense and not the usual rubbish business utd been doing for the last however many years

Robbo · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:10

The_One said:
Youve signed someone on a free and a backup player for the future and losing your top goalscorer

Tell me how thats nonsense and not the usual rubbish business utd been doing for the last however many years

So you think Eriksen is a bad signing? Based on?

A top goalscorer who isn't in the long term plans of the club and won't fit into the new managers system? Something most people would agree on, and did when he signed.

We're also looking at signing Martinez, a top target of your own club?

You're aware there are almost two months remaining of the transfer window?

Anything else?

The_One · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:11

Robbo said:
So you think Eriksen is a bad signing? Based on?

A top goalscorer who isn't in the long term plans of the club and won't fit into the new managers system? Something most people would agree on, and did when he signed.

We're also looking at signing Martinez, a top target of your own club?

You're aware there are almost two months remaining of the transfer window?

Anything else?

Eth says he wanted to work with ronaldo so saying probably didnt fit into his system is rubbish

Eriksen is a good midfielder hes not the cbs or striker utd need though is he

Robbo · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:14

The_One said:
Eth says he wanted to work with ronaldo so saying probably didnt fit into his system is rubbish

Eriksen is a good midfielder hes not the cbs or striker utd need though is he

He's hardly going to come out and say he doesn't want him is he?!

Midfield has been our weakest area for years now, defensive and offensive. This is well documented.

Martinez is a CB?

robfosters · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:35

Robbo said:
He's hardly going to come out and say he doesn't want him is he?!

Midfield has been our weakest area for years now, defensive and offensive. This is well documented.

Martinez is a CB?

He’s primarily a CB yeah?

Robbo · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:37

robfosters said:
He’s primarily a CB yeah?

Yes, although he can also play in defensive midfield. Seems very well regarded as a ball playing defender, but he is quite short.

Shamikebab · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:45

How little do you have to know about football to think we don't need midfielders :cry:

BaZ87 · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:47

Robbo said:
I would agree with this. All of our eggs are in the Ten Hag basket now, so we need to get the players he wants and hope he's good enough to rival Klopp/Pep.

And hoping and expecting for that is ridiculous.

Robbo · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:50

BaZ87 said:
And hoping and expecting for that is ridiculous.

Is that not the plan long term though? I don't think that's unreasonable, of course not in the first couple of seasons.

Chelsea seem keen on Ronaldo, I don't think we're likely to let him go there. Would Tuchel even want him...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1543947800685191168

Shamikebab · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:50

What is the alternative? Should we sign players that ETH doesn't want?

Converge · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:51

BaZ87 said:
And hoping and expecting for that is ridiculous.

Ridiculous in the short term, but he might come good. No one knows yet and it won’t be ‘his team’ for a few more windows either, got to give the guy a chance.

BaZ87 · 4 Jul 2022 at 14:58

Shamikebab said:
What is the alternative? Should we sign players that ETH doesn't want?

It's not about signing players he wants or doesn't want. It's about having a structure in place that doesn't rely on one man. The club sets the overall philosophy and appoints a manager/coach to carry that out and they bring players in that fit into that way of playing. There is, yet again, zero evidence of that happening at Utd. The man they appointed in a short term managerial role that was meant to help implement this moving forwards has left and all Utd's transfer targets are just players ETH has worked with or knows from his time at Ajax.

There is no continuity in anything Utd have done and by the looks of it, will be doing now. They're just going to put their eggs in the ETH basket and when he doesn't come good they'll rinse and repeat with the next manager not wanting the 4 foot CB you're being linked with just like ETH doesn't want the non football playing RB Ole signed.

Shamikebab · 4 Jul 2022 at 15:03

BaZ87 said:
It's not about signing players he wants or doesn't want. It's about having a structure in place that doesn't rely on one man. The club sets the overall philosophy and appoints a manager/coach to carry that out and they bring players in that fit into that way of playing. There is, yet again, zero evidence of that happening at Utd. The man they appointed in a short term managerial role that was meant to help implement this moving forwards has left and all Utd's transfer targets are just players ETH has worked with or knows from his time at Ajax.

There is no continuity in anything Utd have done and by the looks of it, will be doing now. They're just going to put their eggs in the ETH basket and when he doesn't come good they'll rinse and repeat with the next manager not wanting the 4 foot CB you're being linked with just like ETH doesn't want the non football playing RB Ole signed.

I don't know how you can say in such a short term whether we do or don't have that in place yet. This is something that is evident over years, not months. How do you know exactly that nobody else has an input into transfers? Indeed as a club we've been interested in Eriksen before so it's not like that one is coming from ETH, he wasn't even at the club when Eriksen was there.