I hope so, dont want him
Summer Transfer Window 23/24
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Managers for buying the wrong players, the glazers provide the money and the managers spend it, glazers can’t be held to account for the poor way your managers spend money. You would think another £200m this season should keep the green and yellow scarves in the cupboards for a few months.
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Who appointed the managers?
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Apart from OGS(who was hired full time due to fan pressure) all of the managers were pretty top class appointments so you can’t blame the glazers for that, no matter how hard you try. So over a billion spent and good managers hired, so it’s not the Glazers fault the managers have failed and spent poorly, they have backed the managers fully which is what you would expect from an owner.
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Guys Woppy has spoken, you can't blame the owners for the way a club is run and putting a club over a billion in debt is perfectly reasonable.
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So these top managers all of a sudden became poor buyers at United?
Again I think you’re confused. No one is saying we haven’t spent money. It’s not about that but you have your fingers in yours ears and relish another opportunity to have a bash at United. It’s no coincidence either it’s the same posters from the same 3 clubs. It’s the Mayweather effect, love em or hate em but your always going to be talking about them.
Of course it bloody is, even ignoring the money side of things his personality isn't a fit for the club
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You are just completely wrong on all accounts here. There wasn't fan pressure to give Ole the job full time at all. He was an easy appointment. They, as usual had zero ******* plan at all and just lurched from one era to the next. Ole did well at the start of his tenure. He still had the discipline and coaching hangover from Mourinho and came in and made the players happy and that worked for a while. He didn't get the job because fans were desperate for it.
Secondly, the owners have a massive say over how the club is run, where money is spent, when money is spent and who is in all the top positions running the club. The Glazers went from Fergie to Moyes who wasn't even close to being ready for a club of Uniteds size. He played negative defensive football. LvG then came in and wanted to play possession football. Then Mourinho came in who wanted to play a completely different style. Then Ole came in and continued that somewhat until he got too big for his boots and tried to do more. Now we have a different managerial style again.
Perhaps you can explain how you build good teams when you change the style you want to play every couple of years. Oh and if you want to make it that bit worse, we overpay all our players so its impossible to actually move then on and if we do, we get a pittance for them.
The club is in more debt than when they took over, the facilities need hundreds of millions pumped into them, perhaps even a billion. We have taking over a billion out of the club to service debt along with the Glazers dividends. The Glazers are rotten owners. You're argument is akin to "how can the kids of billionaires not turn out great, they have all the money they could possibly want". Its not about the money, its how you spend it.
Frankly I'm astonished that someone who has seen their club run by Mike Ashley can downplay the effect of an awful owner.
I don't think I have seen a single United fan complain that we don't spend money. We all complain that we spend it awfully.
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You say that but Old Trafford is still the biggest stadium by quite some margin and is full no matter what. As much as I hate the Glazers and yes the place needs a whole new revamp from a business point of view there is little point in spending money on it when it is bringing in money constantly.
They could invest and build over the railway tracks and make it the largest stadium in the country even bigger than Wembley but the returns would be terrible to make it profitable you are talking a decade plus. You only have to look at Arsenal, Spurs, to some extent Liverpool and even Leicester City to see the effect of spending on infrastructure has caused when you are not bank rolled by oil states. It effects being able to spend on players.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but when Di Maria was bought he was a Champions League winner in his prime from Real Madrid. When Pogba was bought he was the next big thing and had just played in a Champions League final for Juve. Lukaku had just come of a double season at Everton scoring 18 than 25 league goals. That 200+ million from those 3 players would have done wonders for our stadium but when you look at each player in isolation of where they were before they came to United they totally justified their price tag.
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Biggest stadium doesnt matter its way behind in terms of facilities and security why you think it wasnt picked for euro 28 thats an embaressment for utd
Because they were unsure whether it would be under development by then, so can’t commit to stuff years out. Nothing to do with facilities / standards from what I read.
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Old Trafford is outdated and that money that the Glazers have take out the club, could’ve gone a long way to either build a new one or bring it up to date.
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You are 100% correct but if you are in their position and have no personal interest in United but a pure business head you would do exactly the same as them. The people you need to blame are the people that allowed a takeover the way they did it in the first place.
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They’ve done the what’s best for themselves but I have no interest in what’s good for them. No you can’t blame those that came before that’s ridiculous.
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Utd are a billion in debt, that’s money that the club has generated/cash flow going out on the transfers. Utd still have shipping containers at their training ground.
O.T isn’t even good enough to be considered for European competition now.In those last 10 years, they’ve fallen behind both on and off the pitch, even commercially which they where vastly applauded for isn’t even that good when you consider Liverpool have not only closed the gap but now leap frogged United, that would have been unfathomable to think of 10 years ago.
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The Glazers are hilarious owners who quite simply do not give a fly **** as long as they get their dividends.
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Even Gary Neville thinks OT is a complete hole now
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That’s a bit harsh it’s still a good stadium compared to most, it’s just not comparable to a great, modern stadium likes spurs have.
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Gary Neville has lots of opinions, sometimes he is right, sometimes he is wrong. He thought signing Ronaldo was a good idea....look how that turned out.