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Admiral Huddy

Admiral Huddy

Admiral Huddy

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Ok, i have to say, i'm not impressed :(

Firstly, the characters on the desktop are distorted ?

Secondly, there is a bright white light at the bottom and top of screen when black.

Thirdly, after ten minutes, there's a loud humming "Whinning"noise coming from inside?

Is any of this right?

RMA time me thinks.. This was my worry coming from my old faithfull CRT :(

I don't think the images are any better.

Thoughts?
 
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I've got one of these screens and it has NONE of those probs you stated. It really sounds like a bad one, I'd rma it meself.
 
Also, iwas wondering, - - - if a the native resolution of a 20" WS TFT is 1680 x 1050 the whats' happening to this resolution with the bigger 22" WS TFT. Does this mean the pixels are strecthed?

Interesting to read in this months Custom PC that "they have yet to test a 22" TFT that's impresive.


I'm wondering if a 20" WS TFT would be better for crispier gaming.

I'm RMA'ing the Samsung.. I tried it again and the noise is deafining. Shame 'cos it looks absolutely stunning on my desk.

:(
 
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I've got one of these and have had none of the problems you have mentioned. Im very happy with mine although I was running it a 20ms until I changed it down to 5ms update. Doh!

Edit: Just noted different model. Sorry.
 
Alf4 said:
I've got one of these and have had none of the problems you have mentioned. Im very happy with mine although I was running it a 20ms until I changed it down to 5ms update. Doh!

Edit: Just noted different model. Sorry.
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says in your sig you have the 20" not the 22"?


How did you change the res time?

edit i've just noticed your edit :p
 
I would've thought that the size of the pixels ias dependant on the native res of the screen, ie: bigger screen, same res as smaller screen, therefore the pixels have to be bigger. I think its more of an implementation of the controlling electronics and panel quality meself.
I found I had to have a setting of high contrast, low brightness on this screen with all the other options set to personal taste. Icidentally, I've got a 32" samsung tv, and the settings are somewhat similar in that respect.
The Blacklight bleed is negligible on my screen and only noticeable under a very few conditions, so not a prob for me. The image quality is virtually the same as that I had with me 19" samsung lcd, just bigger and a touch brighter and clearer.
With respect to the distorted desktop characters, that sounds like incorrect resolution to me, are you sure its set to 1680 x 1050? I've also had no probs at all with the quality of AA applied to any game, looks stunning all the time, COH, FarCry, FEAR all look amazing here and I'm well happy with it.
The humming/whining noise sounds like summat totally different though. that sounds like a power supply related prob to me, could a poor internal earth, screening/bonding not adequate, etc. On that premise alone, I'd RMA it anyway, mine is totally silent.
On a sidenote, a lot personal taste is applied here also, what one person finds acceptable, another doesn't. Expectations and personal standards as well come into play here. I'd be a bit peeved to say the least if what I got did live up to my expectations. I'd suggest to try and demo one for yourself first before you replace it meself, theres an awful lot of satisfied ppl out here using these monitors.
Hope this helps, if you have any other questions, you can PM me and I'll see if theres anything else I can help you with.
 
pieman109 said:
I would've thought that the size of the pixels ias dependant on the native res of the screen, ie: bigger screen, same res as smaller screen, therefore the pixels have to be bigger. I think its more of an implementation of the controlling electronics and panel quality meself.
I found I had to have a setting of high contrast, low brightness on this screen with all the other options set to personal taste. Icidentally, I've got a 32" samsung tv, and the settings are somewhat similar in that respect.
The Blacklight bleed is negligible on my screen and only noticeable under a very few conditions, so not a prob for me. The image quality is virtually the same as that I had with me 19" samsung lcd, just bigger and a touch brighter and clearer.
With respect to the distorted desktop characters, that sounds like incorrect resolution to me, are you sure its set to 1680 x 1050? I've also had no probs at all with the quality of AA applied to any game, looks stunning all the time, COH, FarCry, FEAR all look amazing here and I'm well happy with it.
The humming/whining noise sounds like summat totally different though. that sounds like a power supply related prob to me, could a poor internal earth, screening/bonding not adequate, etc. On that premise alone, I'd RMA it anyway, mine is totally silent.
On a sidenote, a lot personal taste is applied here also, what one person finds acceptable, another doesn't. Expectations and personal standards as well come into play here. I'd be a bit peeved to say the least if what I got did live up to my expectations. I'd suggest to try and demo one for yourself first before you replace it meself, theres an awful lot of satisfied ppl out here using these monitors.
Hope this helps, if you have any other questions, you can PM me and I'll see if theres anything else I can help you with.
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that's a great help, thanks.

I have raised an RMA this morning. OCUK have been very helpfull.

I'm not sure what to do now. I researched hard to pick the right TFT and my worries were granted last night whilst setting this up.

My VGA won't play very nicely at 1680x1050 with full settings. I played CoH for a while at the setting I had for the CRT but it just didn't look right. Not as crisp and clear as the TFT?

The characters appear to be something to do withthe way in which the image is stretched. There are settings in the nVidia panel for this. I'd be interested in knowing what you have this set to.

I'm not sure if I should replace/ or buy a different TFT, like the Belina 20 TFT, rated very highly by Custom PC and has a native re of 1680x1050.

What do you reckon?
 
It took me about a day to get used to the "stretched" desktop, ie: the amount of space between the icons and fonts etc, but the size of the icons/fonts was not affected at all, they were/are the same size, just the surrounding areas were stretched. It sounds to me like a desktop/driver setting somewhere is wrong meself. I'm using an 8800gts and before that, an x1900xt, neither of which has given me any probs wrt image distortion. I assume you're using an nvidia card? I'll have a look at me settings and post back, although I don't recall having to change anything, just installed the drivers, set AA x 4, AF x 16, texture quality to high, and that was it, nothing else.
One thing springs to mind, did you instal the drivers from the samsung floppy/cdrom? i didn't use this at all, I just let windows load it's own drivers and left it at that. Maybe that has a bearing on image config/quality.
Its sounds like a deffo rma with that humming though unfortunately.
if you tell me how to do it (in plain english idiots guide :D ), I'll take a screenshot of me desktop and mail it to you, it'll give a better indication of the image quality.

PS: what graphics card are using?
The other thing remember is a good crt will/should always be better than an LCD monitor, its just that they're so big!
 
pieman109 said:
It took me about a day to get used to the "stretched" desktop, ie: the amount of space between the icons and fonts etc
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Hmm, do widescreen monitors actually stretch the display like that? Thats worrying as I have a VX910 at the moment and was thinking of going widescreen. I thought the text and icons would look identical to my old VX910 and the desktop area would just be bigger/wider

What do you mean by stretched? Sounds like its distorted or something.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Its not that the pixels are stretched, its that on a 22in TFT running at the same resolution as a 20in they are physically larger, so the image will appear less sharp
 
Thats not quite right, even though the image is stretched so to speak, the icons, fonts, etc appear the same size/clarity as before with a 4:3 monitor, mine do anyway :confused:
And I suppose its not really "stretched", its more like theres more area to fill on the screen so the spacing between the on screen items is bigger, but the proportions remain the same. I assume its the vidcard software arranging the spacing between icons and fonts, but keeping their size and shape the same as if you were running say, 1280 x 1024 res on a 4:3 aspect ratio monitor. (Not the best explanation I know, sorry)
 
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Its not that the pixels are stretched, its that on a 22in TFT running at the same resolution as a 20in they are physically larger, so the image will appear less sharp
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Thats why on most larger screens you have more pixels. A 19" lcd 'frinstance normally has a max number of pixels of 1280 x 1024, whereas a 22" lcd has 1650 x 1050 pixels, so that every square inch of screen has the "same" number of pixels so to speak. Obviously if a 20" screen has a res of 1680 x 1050 then its gonna be sharper due the higher number of pixels per square inch. In my case, the icons are just as sharp with this 22" screen as they were on me old 19" screen, its just that the spacing between them horizontally is bigger.
The way I think it works is that most screens have the same number of pixels per square inch. I'm not doing a very good job of explaining this am I :p
 
pieman109 said:
Thats why on most larger screens you have more pixels. A 19" lcd 'frinstance normally has a max number of pixels of 1280 x 1024, whereas a 22" lcd has 1650 x 1050 pixels, so that every square inch of screen has the "same" number of pixels so to speak. Obviously if a 20" screen has a res of 1680 x 1050 then its gonna be sharper due the higher number of pixels per square inch. In my case, the icons are just as sharp with this 22" screen as they were on me old 19" screen, its just that the spacing between them horizontally is bigger.
The way I think it works is that most screens have the same number of pixels per square inch. I'm not doing a very good job of explaining this am I :p
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I am completely confused :confused: lol

I would expect text and icons to look IDENTICAL on a widescreen monitor versus a tradition 4:3 monitor. I don't see how it should be stretched or anything. Surely all thats different is the aspect ratio and icons/text should look the same. If something is being distorted then thats bad indeed.

I would expect a windows desktop on my 19" VX910 monitor to look identical to that on a 22" or 24" widescreen just that it will be wider. If thats not the case then why not? :)

If you are talking pixel pitch then that is down to the individual monitor and not to do with the aspect ratio. (I hope thats what you mean!)

Mike
 
Thats because they are identical. Ok, lets explain it this way. All your desktop icons are, say, an 1" square in size on a 19" or 20" 4:3 screen at 1280 x 1024 NATIVE res, ok?
Then the icons would still be 1" square in size on a 22" , 16:9 screen, at 1680 x 1050 res, BUT they would be further apart HORIZONTALLY on the 22" screen. thats what I mean by "stretched". the space between the icons is bigger, but the icons remain the same size. There might also be a slight increase in space between them VERTICALLY but I can't really remember there being that increase.
As Admiral Huddy says, a 20" screen with a NATIVE res of 1680 x 1050 will be sharper than a 22" at 1680 x 1050 native res, because there are more pixels per square inch on the smaller screen. I also think the icons will appear smaller but don't quote me on that.
Does that explanation help at all?
 
Hehe kinda, thanks. I think its pixel pitch you are talking about and not something to do with the aspect ratio. :confused:
 
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