Supplements the debate/discussion thread

Chris1712 said:
I was planning on getting from bulksuppsdirect probably (100 tabs, 1.5x strength of MP for £15). Any aid in sleep is what I'm after, natural test boosters are as far as I can tell snake oil tbh. Anything potent enough to make a difference will need PCT, and anything that needs PCT is an ethical gray area for me.
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your still better off going for tesco's, if you want to waste cash by buying the exact same thing for more money, then go ahead, it may well be 1.5x the strength but its also 1.5x more expensive therefore making it the exact same. tesco is still 1/3rd of the price regardless of which deal you go for.

if you want pills to aid your sleep, the only ones which truely work are highly addictive and you end up not being able to sleep without them.

zma will help as much as it increases test, which is minimal at best.

i suggest you try tiring yourself out during the day, or waking up earlier than normal.
 
If you was going to get them from MP, then they also do their own combination of ZMA (Search for Zinc and Magnesium) So might as well get them cheaper either way.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
your still better off going for tesco's, if you want to waste cash by buying the exact same thing for more money, then go ahead, it may well be 1.5x the strength but its also 1.5x more expensive therefore making it the exact same. tesco is still 1/3rd of the price regardless of which deal you go for.

if you want pills to aid your sleep, the only ones which truely work are highly addictive and you end up not being able to sleep without them.

zma will help as much as it increases test, which is minimal at best.

i suggest you try tiring yourself out during the day, or waking up earlier than normal.
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The BSD packs are only 1 tab per serving, not 3. So 100 tabs = 100 servings, and they're 1.5x the strength :). Not so bad, 11p per serving if you scale it to the same strength as MP. MP works out to 37p per serving! Looks like Tesco works out at 9.4p each, intredasting. But I'd need a pill cutter or something to match the dose, not sure how important that is? Also is the Magnesium from Aspartate? I guess the A part of ZMA has some importance?

Thanks for the prices anyway Sonny, it's just a thought at the moment.
As for my sleeping, I've always struggled. My current routine is something like this....

Wake up 0745
Gym - 0815-0915
Work 0930 - 1730
Sleep 0000 - 0745

Now I saw sleep 0000 - 0745, but it usually takes me an hour or more to actually fall asleep. My mind is just racing from the day's events. I'm not sure I can tire myself out much more than 16.5-17.5 hour day including gym and work!
 
looks like those guys are offering a good all in one deal then, but as i say, for these small items, supermarkets are always the best to get them from. ive not looked into zma much.

i take opti men which has like 100 different vitamins/minerals in one, orange triad is also another really good all in one.

it has 30mg of zinc and 100mg of magnesium per 3 tab serving.

180 Tablets
Supplement Facts
Serving Size3Tablets
Servings Per Container60
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Vitamin A (As CaroCare Natural Mixed Carotenoids) 10,000IU 200%*
Vitamin C (As Ascorbic Acid) 300mg 500%*
Vitamin D (As Cholecalciferol) 300IU 75%*
Vitamin E (As D-Alpha Tocopherol Succinate) 200IU 665%*
Vitamin K (As Phytonadione) 75mcg 90%*
Thiamin (As Thiamin Hydrochloride) 75mg 5,000%*
Riboflavin 75mg 4,410%*
Niacin (As Niacinamide) 75mg 375%*
Vitamin B6 (As Pyridoxine Hydrochloride) 50mg 2,500%*
Folic Acid 600mcg 150%*
Vitamin B12 (As Cyanocobalamin) 100mcg 1665%*
Vitamin B12 (As Cyanocobalamin) 300mcg 100%*
Pantothenic Acid (As D-Calcium Pantothenate) 75mg 750%*
Calcium (As Calcium Carbonate, Citrate) 200mg 20%*
Iodine (As Kelp) 150mcg 100%*
Magnesium (As Magnesium Oxide, Aspartate) 100mg 25%*
Zinc (As Zinc Citrate) 30mg 200%*
Selenium (As Selenomethionine) 200mcg 285%*
Copper (As Copper Gluconate) 2mg 100%*
Manganese (As Manganese Gluconate) 5mg 250%*
Chromium (As Chromium GTF) 120mcg 100%*
Molybdenum (As Molybdenum A.A. Chelate) 80mcg 110%*
Amino Blend 800mg †
L-Arginine, L-Glutamine, L-Valine, L-Leucine, L-Isoleucine, L-Cystine, L-Lysine, L-Threonine
Viri Blend 525mg †
Saw Palmetto, Powdered (Berries), Damiana, Powdered (Leaf), Korean Ginseng, Powdered (Root), Pygeum Africanum, Powdered (Bark), Ginkgo Biloba, Powdered (Leaf), Raw Oyster Concentrate, Nettles, Powdered (Leaf), Pumpkin Seed.
Phyto Blend 240mg †
Citrus Bioflavonoids (Fruit), Deodorized Garlic, Powdered (Bulb), Green Tea Powder, Grape Seed Extract (Vitis Vinifera)(Seed)(Standardized To 95% Polyphenols), Blueberry Powder, Cranberry Powder, Wild Yam Powder, Carrot Powder, Papaya Powder, Orange Fruit Powder, Pineapple Powder, Spinach Powder, Elderberry Powder, Kale Powder, Brussels Sprouts Powder, Broccoli Powder, Apple Fruit Powder, Kiwi Fruit Powder, Grapefruit Powder.
Enzy 50mg †
Papain, Bromelain, Alpha Amylase, Lipase.
Alpha-Lipoic Acid 25mg †
PABA (Para-Aminobenzoic Acid) 10mg †
Choline (As Choline Bitartrate) 10mg †
Inositol 10mg †
Silica 5mg †
Boron 2mg †
Lycopene (As Lyc-O-Mato Natura Tomato Lycopene) 500mcg †
Lutein 500mcg †
Alpha Carotene 500mcg †
Vanadium 100mcg †
Cryptoxanthin 100mcg †
Zeaxanthin 28mcg †
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
† Daily Value not established


Read more: Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men 180 Tablets http://www.cheapuksupplements.com/c...m-nutrition-opti-men-180-tablet#ixzz1bVwbVxd9


there is no way i could take that many different tablets from tesco, so i buy an all in one. covers all the bases.
 
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Could someone spec me some good fish oils. Heard things about DPA etc and I'm completely lost!

Looking to spend £20 roughly.


edit: also some whey protein as well.
 
360x Omega 3 1000mg - £9.89

360x Omega 3 1000mg with Lemon Oil - £8.89

Can't be beaten for price, much cheaper than myprotein too for the amount of EPA and DHA in each capsule. If you're planning on taking a lot (I take 6 normal caps and 4 with lemon oil each day) then I'd get one lot of each. If not just get the ones with lemon oil as they're cheaper. I'd just advise against taking say 10 caps of the lemon oil ones every day as that's a hell of a lot of vitamin E.
 
Gluatmine - worth it or not ?

I work out most days - love my shakes (Whey 3 times a day - but in lovely shakes full of fresh bananas, apples, rolled oats, and blueberries :) )
 
Mansize_tissue said:
360x Omega 3 1000mg - £9.89

360x Omega 3 1000mg with Lemon Oil - £8.89

Can't be beaten for price, much cheaper than myprotein too for the amount of EPA and DHA in each capsule. If you're planning on taking a lot (I take 6 normal caps and 4 with lemon oil each day) then I'd get one lot of each. If not just get the ones with lemon oil as they're cheaper. I'd just advise against taking say 10 caps of the lemon oil ones every day as that's a hell of a lot of vitamin E.
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Wow, they are some good deals on Omega 3 right there. Was looking to get some more, so thanks a lot, save me some cash ;)

Buckster said:
Gluatmine - worth it or not ?

I work out most days - love my shakes (Whey 3 times a day - but in lovely shakes full of fresh bananas, apples, rolled oats, and blueberries :) )
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I personally like Glutamine as it has a range of benefits, as well as helping me recover from DOMS a lot faster, so I can go back to punishing myself more! :D
 
Myprotein is annoying me. Going for the 2x3kg buy one get one half price bundle, and that with the affiliate code with the flavoured version is bringing me £49.67. 33p short of the free shipping. Otherwise it's £3 postage.

Any suggestions? Can't see anything cheap on the site. :/
 
aaron333 said:
http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/impact-whey-deluxe

http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/impact_whey_protein

Which one of these two should I go for? :)
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one is simply whey protein (fast absorbing) the other is a blend (various proteins which all absorb at different rates, including whey).

whey is best used in the mornings and after a workout, a blend can be used anytime during the day but is much better than just whey when used before bed.

use code MP432891 for 5% off your first order
 
Psycho Sonny said:
one is simply whey protein (fast absorbing) the other is a blend (various proteins which all absorb at different rates, including whey).

whey is best used in the mornings and after a workout, a blend can be used anytime during the day but is much better than just whey when used before bed.

use code MP432891 for 5% off your first order
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Thanks, I honestly didn't know that :o
 
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