Swapping tyres from front to rear?

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Just had a pair of new 235/45/19 Bridgestone Dueler D Sports fitted this afternoon on the rear of the 4007. We had a new pair fitted to the front in October last year. Front's are worn very slightly down to 6mm. Would be possible to swap the fronts with the backs so the new ones are on the front as almost all of the time the car is driven in 2WD mode, in order to even the wear rate up and get more usable life out of the fronts/give them slightly less of a hard time on the rear?. Have read online about doing this and opinion appears to be divided especially when it comes to 4WD drive trains. Some folk are saying that the best idea even for a 2WD car is to have any new tyres on the back, citing reasons of grip from the front compared to the rear and saying that if the front gets the new ones fitted which result in less grip to the front and more to the rear, the rear can 'break away' unexpectedly under severe steering/braking conditions. This was news to me, I always thought it was better to have new tyres on the front on a 2WD car. Apparently not.

Also, a few opinions mention that on a 4WD vehicle if you swap the fronts to the back then the difference in wear rates which affects circumference can upset the diff. But surely if that is the case and the wear rates are different as are the circumferences then the diff must already be getting 'upset' whether they are on the front or the back???. That bit in particular confuzzles me. I'm thinking if the difference is 3mm or less then it shouldn't make that much difference to the diff and 4WD system?. Even the owners manual recommends swapping tyres between axles, front to rear. But then my 4007 has manually switchable 4WD modes and not a full time/permanent system.

I'm off to get a Hunter Laser alignment carried out on the car as the rears were wearing badly on the outside edges compared to the fronts which on the last set were wearing badly on the inside edges so there's quite obviously something wrong with camber and toe-in there that needs addressed. I'll seek advice on the front to rear issue from the guy at my local place as he has a reputation for knowing what he is doing unlike some alignment outfits where the end result is only as good as the operators skill level.

So - any of you lot swap tyres front to rear?.
 
6mm is still a lot of tread, it's not going to make any real difference swapping them over if they are the same size. Given the amount of 4x4 cossies etc that used to have the tyres rotated at the Ford dealer where I worked, if there where a problem in doing this then you would think it wouldn't be recommended on a performance car over anything else.

The only time rotational differences have an influence on the diffs is if they are locked in position, on loose surfaces this isn't an issue because the wheels slip around at different rates with no real stress put on the transmission. You don't drive on tarmac with the diff locks on, so the diff automatically compensates for any variances due to tyre circumference or the lines that the wheels on any particular axle will take when cornering. It's what it is there for after all.

*never mind they are*
 
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I'd always put the tyres with the most grip on the back. After experiencing unwanted oversteer on a fwd car, it's not something I'd want to replicate.

Understeer is easier to control.

In your case, are the fronts and rears the exact same tyre? If they are, you could swap them as the difference between 8mm and 6mm tread will be negligable and it would even out wear.
 
I did that once, put the back ones to the front and front ones to the back. I regretted so much as the road noise was so bad !!!
 
Oh, Peugeot ar emaking the modern interation of the 930 turbo are they?

I do not recommend you put the best tyres on the front if youre driving a proper lairy fireball, esp considering it is so cold at the moment. are they winter tyres?
 
Cheers folks. I'll leave 'as is' I think. The Bridgestone D-Sport is a summer SUV tyre and yeah, all 4 are exactly the same size as you would expect. As far as additional noise goes a lot of folk over on the Kuga owners forums have experienced something similar with the Bridgestones in particular, something to do with the way they can wear in a sawtooth pattern in certain cases. Coincidentally enough I was getting a bit of extra road noise like bearings being worn with the old tyres which had the wear at the outside edges. With the new ones fitted the noise has completely vanished, which is nice. :)

I'll see what the guy at Progrip says when it gets alignment carried out at the end of this week but for now I'll leave them as they are. After all as MatteH said I 'spose there really isn't much difference between 6mm and the new tyres which are @8mm.
 
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