System comparisons

[LordPablo]

I've been looking at some of the Intel systems and I'm unable to figure out what's best...

System 1 - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...y-VsCGy-WsCHy.-sCJy-.sDay/UsDby@wsDcy@zsDGyuV

System 2 - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...yUZsEKyV2sELyV6sEMyV9sENyV'sEOyV$sEPyV_sFayVw

System 3 - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...y-;sCKy-wsCOy/zsCPy@)sCQy@$sDhy:'sDFyuutlfzu1

Obviously, System 1 has DDR4 RAM, cmpared to the others with DDR3, but how much difference would that make?

Oddly, 2 and 3 are near identical, with 3 (an ATX rig) being a bit cheaper :/

Soo many damn choices, I simply cannot decide on a new machine!

 

[LordPablo]

I'm looking at £700 mega tops but ideally in the 500-600 range.

 

[LordPablo]

As you say h1 and h2 are virtually identical the Kinetic Z1 gives you a z board with ddr4 .

There is not a great diffrence in speed between ddr3 and ddr4 so as you want to keep your budget down either h1 or h2 whichever you like.

I'm struggling on selecting a GPU. Whats better (on paper or in the real world) the GTX 970 or a R9 380(X)? The numbers look similar, but the 380 has a better price point.

 

[LordPablo]

Also, what motherboard comes with the H1/2 systems?

I'd like a decent amount of USB3 ports.

 

[LordPablo]

Gtx 970 is comparable to 390, gtx 960 is simallar to 380 both the amd cards are slightly faster than the nvidia cards but use more power.

What do you think is the lowest grade card I should go for, to pair with the i3and 16gb RAM?

 

[LordPablo]

Is it worth going down the 1151/DDR4 route and get an i3 6100 now, allowing me to get an i5/i7 in the future?

Or will an i5 4690(K) with DDR3 be sufficient bang for buck for the next few years?

 

[LordPablo]

The 4690k and ddr 3 will last for years to come as there is not a great deal of performance increase with skylake .

Glad to hear, although I'm struggling to price this build to be any cheaper then an i3 skylake :/ no bundle deals atm and the 4690k isn't cheap.

 

[LordPablo]

Could you build a pc yourself ?

Yea, I am looking to go down this route, as it's what I've always done, and hopefully I can get the exact system I want, rather then trying to pick a decent pre-built system.

That said, if there was a pre-built that ticked all the boxes, I'd get it!

 

[LordPablo]

How does this AMD pre-built look for 1080p 60fps gaming?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...y'6sCjy!!sCmy-:sCny~8sCLy/ysCMy@2sCNy@5sDEyu~

 

[LordPablo]

Going for Kaveri 3870k with extra GPU is a bit waste of cash (the main strength of this CPU, or rather APU, is that it has fairly good inbuilt GPU into it). If you're already spending a lot of cash on GPU then going for something like fx6 6350 should give you better bang for your buck.

As for the 2nd part of the question - it depends on the games.
If you're into MOBAs/Strategies/RPGs/ older MMOs and some driving games (DIRT / Starcraft / HOTs /LoL) then even the inbuilt GPU should handle them easily.

If you're talking about unoptimized newest benchmark games like witcher 3 or *insert newest badly optimized FPS ps4 port* then you might need to look at spending at least £170-200 on a gpu (380/960/970) depending on amount of detail you like in your games.

Hmm, sadly none of the AMD systems let you choose an FX chip :/

As for games, it's stuff like TF2, Rocket League, Elite Dangerous, BF4, CS:GO

EDIT Found the FX chip systems. How does this look?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/titan-karambit-amd-fx-4-4300-4.0ghz-turbo-quad-core-gaming-pc-fs-094-og.html#p=jqa+@;jqb+@*jqdw_$jqhw_!jqjw__jqkw@3jql+:vjqmw@4pPcw_.rOew.(rOfw./rOgw-WrOhw-XrOiw-Y

 

[LordPablo]

Is there room for mild OCing? And is this gonna give me 1080p 60fps performance? How future proof is this system? In terms of improved CPU and single GPU?