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Hi all,

My present system is struggling big time when trying to edit videos in particular....

Intel Core 2 Quad-Core Q6600 G0 SLA
4x1GB Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR
Abit IP-35 Pro, iP35 Express, S 775
512MB BFG Technology 8800GT OC, PCI
520W Corsair HX Series Modular PSU
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

With an ipad / xbox, all I use my desktop for it video editing (premiere elements) and photo processing (lightroom).

Any thoughts on an update given spec above? Is it update-able or a new rig needed?

Thanks for advice.
 
as said above a new rig would be preferable, something like this, you can use your Arctic cooling HSF so i didnt include one.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £269.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
1 x Sapphire HD 7750 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £79.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel kit (PV316G160C9K) £59.99
Total : £511.36 (includes shipping : £9.50).

 
Thanks all.
Quite a price difference ADM vs Intel.
Performance comparable?
I've previously being willing to spend quite a bit on system upgrades as did a lot of gaming. But as I said, use is now limited to video / photos (blame on babies...) so looking for best price option to give functionality I need (and some assurance it will last me a few years!).

Old PSU is still good I assume?

And views on a sensibly sized case for this type of rig? Sits under a desk to no need to look amazing....
 
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Why are you both going for patriot viper ram? O/c reasons?

What about:
Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)
Bit cheaper....?

Another thing re case. Mobo suggested is usb3.0. Assume I should be upgrading my case to a atx 3.0 front panel as well?
 
The patriot ram was because it was the cheapest 16GB kit there is on the site, when you said you wanted to video edit and photo edit more RAM is generally better.

You don't "need" to get a new case, the usb3 is on the back of the motherboard so unless the back of your case is hard to get to i wouldn't worry about getting a new case.
 
You should also take into account how much video editing and photo processing you do. And is time important?
Get the components that make better use of your software, hyperthreading, ram or Cuda/OpenGL.
 
You should also take into account how much video editing and photo processing you do. And is time important?
Get the components that make better use of your software, hyperthreading, ram or Cuda/OpenGL.

Your statement is above my level of competence...!

I do a lot of photo processing, video ad hoc. Time isn't important. I leave it rendering overnight etc. But need it to run smoothly. Presently I can't really add layers to videos... Just too jumpy.

Literally, Lightroom, premiere elements and iTunes are all I use on my desktop...
 
I believe that the AMD system would be the better machine for video editing. And with such a huge price difference, if video editing is your main application, then the AMD system is the way to go :)

I'll just leave this here, I felt compelled to post this in a thread a while ago and happened to have it saved. It is not directed at anyone, more of a reminder of why we are here :)

The component manufacturer shouldn't come into it unless it bears relation to component quality and reliability.

It should be about what hardware would be most suited to the client and his/her needs.

I have an Intel system because it is best for what I want to do with it (which is gaming). If AMD chips were better for this purpose I would have bought an AMD based system.

The OP has a budget, we are trying to stick to it while offering up what we honestly think is the best system he/she can buy for his/her needs with the money he/she has to spend.

It is unfair to persuade people to buy a computer with your favored make of CPU (or GPU) because you think they should, without justification.

I have seen it on here before where a group of members overwhelm someone asking for help, and before more even headed people with more experience can step in to pick up the pieces, it is too late and the OP has already ordered the 'wrong' components. Meanwhile, said members have already wandered off to mislead other people.

If you are not 100% sure of your words when you make the claim that one CPU is better than another for a specific purpose, don't state your opinion as fact and go and do a little bit of research.

If however you are an avid gamer, and would take gaming performance over video editing performance, then an Ivybridge i5/i7 system would perform noticeably better, and while they may be on par or below with a Piledriver FX-8 for some types of video editing, they will still handle it admirably. Just as the FX-8 will still handle gaming admirably.

Each CPU specialises in a different area in terms of performance, but they both offer great performance figures across the rest of the board.

Which CPU performs better will also depend on how heavily threaded the processes are. Ivybridge tends to handle single threaded better, and Piledriver tends to handle multi threaded better.

Either will perform remarkably better than your current CPU.

But there is always the massive price difference to take into consideration as well.

Some benchmark comparisons for productivity and gaming:

Q6600 vs i5 3570K
Q6600 vs FX-8350
i5 3570K vs FX-8350
i5 3570K vs FX-8320
i7 3770K vs FX-8350
i7 3770K vs FX-8320
FX-8350 vs FX-8320
i7 3770K vs i5 3570K

3570K - £190
3770K - £270
FX8350 - £180
FX8320 - £140

Capable motherboards for the AMD setup will generally be considerably cheaper unless you drop to an H77 or B75 chipset for the Intel based configuration.

In terms of upgrade paths, the maximum RAM and PCI-E bandwidth etcetera will depend on the motherboard. CPU wise the 3770K is the end of the line for the 1155 socket because Haswell will be taking us over to the 1150 socket. As it stands currently the FX-8350 is the end of the line for the AM3+ socket, however to the best of my knowledge, there has been no word as to whether the next generation of AMD CPU's will continue to use the AM3+ socket or not. If anyone knows otherwise, please do tell :)

Hope this helps :cool:

- acme -

*edit* slight revision - the 3770K will perform the best for almost every task, however it is up to you as to whether you think the enormous price gap is justified by the increase in performance.
 
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