tablets to replace PCs?

[Jay794]

Well, lets see...

Certainly, your statement: "Angry birds is as good as it gets" is nothing short of, well, silly really. Mobile GPU's are going to get very powerful, and mobile gaming will become one of the biggest sources of development in the world. It's inevitable.

Lol, 7 or 8 years ago? so like I said, not comparable.

Can you really see an iPad being capable of playing Arkham City any time soon? so like I said, not comparable.

Yeah, tablets have a place, but yeah they might eventually replace desktops, but not anytime soon.

Touch screen gaming is just like the current fad of 3D TV's as in....temporary

And yeah, in the future we probably will have total immersion gaming, in the next 5 years? not even close, tablets are good for casual gaming e.g when you're traveling, and thats only because they're portable, I'd still rather play Red Alert 3 on a laptop on a than the crappy iPad version

 

[ColEx]

Tablet gaming is actually pretty good, some games i have played recently have kept my attention longer then most AAA PC games. I think somewhere down the line tablets will replace most Desktops, at least for the general use population. Its probably already happening, still early days though.

 

[paradisiac]

But that's not a the point of the thread.

Lot's of people going off topic. The point of the thread was will the original posters business shrink within the next 3-4 years.

The answer in my opinion without doubt yes. The home computer repair business will shrink drastically. and looking further along the line 10+ years ie if it's you long term job then I would be very worried.

but in my opinion this would happen anyway with or without the increase in tablet sales. pcs/laptops are becoming so cheap that if you don't have a mate/family member that can fix it (which 99% of people do), then it can be cheaper/easier to just replace. once the 12 month warranty period is out, technology has jumped a fair bit, that its not cost effective to spend £100 on getting your old stuff repaired.

 

[Richdog]

Lol, 7 or 8 years ago? so like I said, not comparable.

Congratulations for ignoring the important points of my post. Power is increasing exponentially, 3-4x with each gen. Max Payne and GTA III don't even really stretch modern tablets. Big developers are now starting to turn their attention and resources to mobile gaming because that is where the money will be. Do the maths.

Yeah, tablets have a place, but yeah they might eventually replace desktops, but not anytime soon.

"In our lifetime", was your somewhat optimistic quote.

Touch screen gaming is just like the current fad of 3D TV's as in....temporary

lol... touch screen gaming a fad? Try the future.

 

[paradisiac]

lol... touch screen gaming a fad? Try the future.

I would like to agree, but I just cant. look at things like the wii/kinnect/playstation eye. they were supposed to make gaming better and take it to a new level, and well, they didn't.

 

[Richdog]

I would like to agree, but I just cant. look at things like the wii/kinnect/playstation eye. they were supposed to make gaming better and take it to a new level, and well, they didn't.

You do know the difference between touchscreen, and motion sensing, right? Hint: one is touchscreen, the other isn't.

 

[paradisiac]

You do know the difference between touchscreen, and motion sensing, right?

yes I do. but they were supposed to be the future, and the novelty wore off quickly. I feel the same will happen with touchscreen. after a few months/years the novelty will wear off, and unless they can bring something different regularly to keep peoples interest, it will just fade out.

E : it was quite obviously a comparison of how they tried to change the way games were being played. if I was hinting they were also touchscreen I would have clearly said. other touchscreen attempts failed like the wii.....which I blatantly did not

 

[konicky]

Hi all,

I started my own PC Repairs business in 2008 and everything has gone well since. I've noticed lately that a few of my customers, both new and old, have decided to buy an ipad. I'm worried that one day in the non too distant future that pcs will be replaced by tablets regarding my market audience, which as you can imagine tends to range mostly around middle aged people. I have quite a lot of older customers too and hardly any under 30.

Am I right to be worried? Will ipads and tablets like the nexus make personal laptops and desktop computers a thing of the past for these people?

You are right to be worried!

Desktops are already on the way out. Have a look in John Lewis and you might find a few on a low shelf gathering dust but everybody will be buying laptops and tablets. As tablets get more powerful and the OS's converge laptops will disappear too.

The future is smartphones and tablets which automatically link to keyboards and big screens when at home.

 

[Richdog]

yes I do. but they were supposed to be the future, and the novelty wore off quickly. I feel the same will happen with touchscreen. after a few months/years the novelty will wear off, and unless they can bring something different regularly to keep peoples interest, it will just fade out.

E : it was quite obviously a comparison of how they tried to change the way games were being played. if I was hinting they were also touchscreen I would have clearly said. other touchscreen attempts failed like the wii.....which I blatantly did not

Touch is 10x more natural to the human mind and body than any other control system and it isn't going anywhere, especially on the tablet market which will always be (until they invent true brain impulse control or something) touch-based.

Your comparison was off because phones and tablets ARE all touch, will stay touch, and sales will only increase year on year. I don't see how anyone can argue against that as the evidence is plain to see.

 

[paradisiac]

Touch is 10x more natural to the human mind and body than any other control system and it isn't going anywhere, especially on the tablet market which will always be (until they invent true brain impulse control or something) touch-based.

Your comparison was off because phones and tablets ARE all touch, will stay touch, and sales will only increase year on year. I don't see how anyone can argue against that as the evidence is plain to see.

I don't argue touchscreen wont be around and wont have its uses, but I don't think touchscreen gaming will flourish in the same way standard console and pc gaming has unless that can keep coming up with new ideas.

E : I cant see FPS or racing games on touchscreen feeling natural.

also, you say it was a bad comparison as motion control is not developing and touchscreen is the only future. so why are they investing time and money in things like http://leapmotion.com/ if touchscreen is the future and everything else sucks?

 

[Richdog]

I don't argue touchscreen wont be around and wont have its uses, but I don't think touchscreen gaming will flourish in the same way standard console and pc gaming has unless that can keep coming up with new ideas.

It's already flourishing in the same kind of way, and will one day in the not too distant future be close to if not more popular than everything else combined. The number of phones and tablets in the world will outstrip consoles and PC's by a considerable margin... simply because almost everyone in the world will have a personal phone at some point, whereas the same cannot be said for PC's and consoles. Mobile games are a fraction of the price of console games, can be taken everywhere with you, and sheer volume will make them more profitable in the long run.

 

[Jay794]

You do know the difference between touchscreen, and motion sensing, right? Hint: one is touchscreen, the other isn't.

some games just can't be played in touch screen, not well anyway, e.g. racing games (Dirt) shooters (all of them) strategy (C&C to name a few)

Like I said, Angry Birds is about it lol

 

[paradisiac]

It's already flourishing in the same kind of way, and will one day in the not too distant future be close to if not more popular than everything else combined. The number of phones and tablets in the world will outstrip consoles and PC's by a considerable margin... simply because almost everyone in the world will have a personal phone at some point, whereas the same cannot be said for PC's and consoles. Mobile games are a fraction of the price of console games, can be taken everywhere with you, and sheer volume will make them more profitable in the long run.

like I said in my edit. I don't think all types of games will work on touchscreen and other technology is being developed that isn't touchscreen so developers obviously aren't putting all their efforts into touchscreen as you make out. yes its flourishing now as it has the novelty factor, but can you honestly say you will get console quality games like COD, Batman AA.....that will be easily playable via touchscreen? the novelty games for 50p-£1.50 will sell now as like you said everyone has phones. but the £30 console games on a phone? really?

 

[sven256]

but in my opinion this would happen anyway with or without the increase in tablet sales. pcs/laptops are becoming so cheap that if you don't have a mate/family member that can fix it (which 99% of people do), then it can be cheaper/easier to just replace. once the 12 month warranty period is out, technology has jumped a fair bit, that its not cost effective to spend £100 on getting your old stuff repaired.

You are aware I was one of the people debating with you earlier in the thread?

And as i said earlier it's not just tablets it's internet tvs which are going to be the bigger one. So now you seem to have changed your mind and now seem to be accepting that his business will reduce.

Edit : People are now going further off topic and onto gaming how many of the original posters client ell are going to be gamers?

 

[paradisiac]

You are aware I was one of the people debating with you earlier in the thread?

And as i said earlier it's not just tablets it's internet tvs which are going to be the bigger one. So now you seem to have changed your mind and now seem to be accepting that his business will reduce.

I never once questioned it would die down. my argument was this idea that tablets will take over the world and be the only technology that certain members seem to be banging on about.
I believe there will still be laptops (well hybrids but most people wont use them in tablet form), aswell as desktops. there will be additions like tablets and smart tvs, and everyone will have a smartphone. but I do think that the repair side will die down, not because of the addition of the other items, but because things are easy to get someone you know to fix, or just replace.

 

[Richdog]

like I said in my edit. I don't think all types of games will work on touchscreen and other technology is being developed that isn't touchscreen so developers obviously aren't putting all their efforts into touchscreen as you make out. yes its flourishing now as it has the novelty factor, but can you honestly say you will get console quality games like COD, Batman AA.....that will be easily playable via touchscreen? the novelty games for 50p-£1.50 will sell now as like you said everyone has phones. but the £30 console games on a phone? really?

You can hook up an xbox or ps3 controller to a phone or tablet with little effort. Same with a mouse. I didn't say the exact same games would necessarily be on mobile platforms (though many will undoubtedly be), but games will certainly start to rival console quality.

And like I linked to earlier, cloud gaming will in the future let you play top games on almost any hardware.

 

[Glaucus]

like I said in my edit. I don't think all types of games will work on touchscreen and other technology is being developed that isn't touchscreen so developers obviously aren't putting all their efforts into touchscreen as you make out. yes its flourishing now as it has the novelty factor, but can you honestly say you will get console quality games like COD, Batman AA.....that will be easily playable via touchscreen? the novelty games for 50p-£1.50 will sell now as like you said everyone has phones. but the £30 console games on a phone? really?

You do realise tablets don't only have touch screen. Many have been announced with keyboards and trackpads and off course nothing stopping you connecting k+m or anything else. On top off that Asus and others have announced i3/i5/i7 tablets in a range of screen sizes upto 15" so far.

As someone else said people are stuck to much on the iPad when this thread is about the future.


Someone said phones will soon outstrip all other forms of computers that's allready happened, smart phones outstrip other forms by a massive margin.

 

[apatia77]

I think there will always be a market for desktops, laptops, tablets and smartphones, none of those can be replaced by just one device as each has it's own strengths and weaknesses.

 

[paradisiac]

You can hook up an xbox or ps3 controller to a phone or tablet with little effort. Same with a mouse. I didn't say the exact same games would necessarily be on mobile platforms (though many will undoubtedly be), but games will certainly start to rival console quality.

And like I linked to earlier, cloud gaming will in the future let you play top games on almost any hardware.

You do realise tablets don't only have touch screen. Many have been announced with keyboards and trackpads and off course nothing stopping you connecting k+m or anything else. On top off that Asus and others have announced i3/i5/i7 tablets in a range of screen sizes upto 15" so far.

As someone else said people are stuck to much on the iPad when this thread is about the future.


Someone said phones will soon outstrip all other forms of computers that's allready happened, smart phones outstrip other forms by a massive margin.

and what if the Samsung smart window and/or leapmotion type technology take off. then that will become the new thing and touchscreen will become less popular. its too early to say that touchscreen and tablets are the future when there is still soo much technology that isn't out there yet.
I have no doubt that smartphones will get better and everyone will have one, but then if this is the case, why bother with a tablet when you can just dock a smartphone? so wont the phone kill off tablets? there are soo many ways it could play out that I wouldn't be confident in backing any current technology as 'the future'.

 

[Angilion]

some games just can't be played in touch screen, not well anyway, e.g. racing games (Dirt) shooters (all of them) strategy (C&C to name a few)

Like I said, Angry Birds is about it lol

lolololololololololol. Etc.

Laughing all the time doesn't make your point. It just makes you look silly, which detracts from your point.



Touch screen are rubbish for a great many things. Accurate input, most games, etc.

That doesn't really matter. The simple input that touchscreens do well is enough for the simple games that sell very well and enough for the apps that most customers use. So touchscreens will continue to thrive, simply because there's money to be made. A large proportion of customers want a small screen, simple graphics and simple games. The most likely result is a continuing increase in simple games and a continuing decrease in full games. Casual games are profitable and cheap to make. A shame, but that's the way it's going.

What we might well see is an increase in tablet power to low games console levels and wireless connections to TVs and input devices, so a tablet can double as a games console.