tablets to replace PCs?

paradisiac said:
so laptop sales increased, netbook sales halved and desktops fell by 13%. so in reality my argument of tablets replace netbooks seems true, and people are still opting for laptops over tablets. but heyho.
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I would want to see trend data for laptop and desktop sales before reaching that conclusion. Laptops were already rapidly replacing desktops: the only people I know who still buy desktops are universities, gamers and hardcore video/image specialists. The casual users I know are all switching to laptops, whilst most businesses are going in the same direction, often with a dock sitting on the desktop. As laptops get cheaper and more capable, the need for a dedicated stationary box has declined.

My interpretation of the data presented is that there has been a 13% fall in desktop use, a bit of which has gone to laptops but whereas most of it would have gone to latops in the past a lot has now been taken by the tablet market.

Oh, and netbooks are basically doomed.
 
and another quote
Is that going to kill PCs? No, says Gillett (and you knew that answer already – in general new technologies don't kill off old ones, they just slow them down). "Our casual estimate is that there will be 2bn PCs in use by 2016, despite growing tablet sales. That's because tablets only partially cannibalise PCs. Eventually tablets will slow laptop sales but increase sales of desktop PCs." Why? "Because many people, especially information workers, will still need conventional PCs for any intensely creative work at a desk that requires a large display or significant processing power."
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whats that, increase desktop sales :eek: but I was told the desktops were going to decline and get replaced by tablets :eek:
 
Mr Jack said:
I would want to see trend data for laptop and desktop sales before reaching that conclusion. Laptops were already rapidly replacing desktops: the only people I know who still buy desktops are universities, gamers and hardcore video/image specialists. The casual users I know are all switching to laptops, whilst most businesses are going in the same direction, often with a dock sitting on the desktop. As laptops get cheaper and more capable, the need for a dedicated stationary box has declined.

My interpretation of the data presented is that there has been a 13% fall in desktop use, a bit of which has gone to laptops but whereas most of it would have gone to latops in the past a lot has now been taken by the tablet market.

Oh, and netbooks are basically doomed.
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netbooks and notebooks in the end will just get replaced by hybrids as there is no point a company making 2 items that essentially do the same thing.

but, I don't see it being the end of desktops, as is backed up by pretty much everything I have read, well except the oh so mighty GD people of course :p they will just become more specific and probably cheaper as technology growth with slow down.
 
Predicting tablets will wipe out desktops is a bit like saying the invention of handheld TVs should have replaced the traditional TV.

The arguments are basically the same, portability, space saving etc etc.

As we all know, TVs are still a prime component of the home. The same will apply to desktops.
 
estebanrey said:
Predicting tablets will wipe out desktops is a bit like saying the invention of handheld TVs should have replaced the traditional TV.

The arguments are basically the same, portability, space saving etc etc.

As we all know, TVs are still a prime component of the home. The same will apply to desktops.
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as pointed out by Apple CEO Tim Cook
And one other memorable quote from the discussion came when Cook was asked whether Apple would begin offering a hybrid – say, an iPad with a keyboard you could attach and detach (like the Asus Transformer).

Q: "Can you comment about why you don't believe the PC or the Ultrabook and tablet markets or your MacBook Air and tablet markets won't converge? Isn't it realistic to think in a couple of years we're going to have a device that's under 2lbs with great battery life that we can all carry around and open as a notebook or close up in a clever way and use as a tablet?"

Cook: "I think, Tony, anything can be forced to converge. But the problem is that products are about trade-offs, and you begin to make trade-offs to the point where what you have left at the end of the day doesn't please anyone. You can converge a toaster and a refrigerator, but those things are probably not going to be pleasing to the user. And so our view is that the tablet market is huge."

Seems like Cook and Apple are going with the flow here, at least.
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you try and get 1 device to do everything and you end up pleasing no one ;)
 
Currently own a sgs3 and do not feel the need to get either an Apple or android tablet. I will however buy that high end win8 Microsoft tablet when that comes out!
 
After a day and night out coming back to this thread I'm still not sure what paradisiac arguing/debating about.


The fact is the original poster target audience is older people, who probably only use the pc for web browsing maybe skype and a few other very basic stuff.

This will all be able to be done on internet tvs so why would they go out and buy a pc?

Thus the original posters business will shrink in 3-4 years. And if you look longer term than that say 10 years I see no business at all in the home repair market which is what the original posters market is. This is a idea time to get out instead of delaying the inevitable.
 
paradisiac said:
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Ah, because we have hybrid devices now do we? Tablet market has matured has it?

you do realize we are talking about the future. Not what the stats show now in an immature market.

And to counter your quotes.
http://blog.modernmobileapps.com/category/chips.aspx
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See that growth, let's see what that graph looks like in 2015/2016

More graphs
http://blog.mfoundry.com/2011/08/a-touch-is-universal/

So what does all this mean? It means that the longstanding computer input method of point-and-click is slowly and inexorably dying. PC World summed it up nicely: “With the iPad’s release and growing adoption of touchscreen smartphones, it’s only a matter of time before natural user interfaces become a mainstream IT requirement.”

Who stands to lose from this? Well, online banking providers who are asleep at the wheel will wake up to see their user adoption plummeting as customers seek out slicker, more usable options via their phones and tablets.

Merely porting an online banking experience to a tablet might be fine in the short-term, but as newer, more advanced user interfaces surface within the financial industry, FIs will need to move beyond a basic interface in order to retain their customers.

Ultimately, we’re all grooming an entirely new group of customers being raised on nothing but touch-based interfaces. Familiar technologies to Baby Boomers like a home phone, DVDs, CDs, and PCs will be foreign to an entire generation raised on mobile phones, Netflix, Spotify, and iPads.

For FIs that think they can just rely on users to access the traditional online banking site through the tablet browser, or perhaps just blow up their existing mobile app for tablet, I suggest you rethink your approach. Odds are you’ll wind up looking very outdated, very quickly.
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http://m.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/te...become-primary-computer-many-forrester-734623

Apple CEO, thinks tablets will outstrip desktop sales, funny that.
http://tablet.pcmag.com/?ref=297489&url=http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2403993,00.asp
Apple CEO Tim Cook on Tuesday admitted that the iPad has cannibalized Mac sales, and reiterated his belief that tablets will one day outsell PCs, but denied that either trend was a bad thing.
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[TW]Fox;22397648 said:
, all blamed on the fact he's typing on his iPad. .
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:confused: don't you remember before the tablet it was shockingly bad. I don't blame it on the tablet. It is worse at the moment as the tablet is broken, with phantom screen presses over the delete button, which then auto corrects to jibberish, when stuff gets deleted. When it's not doing that, it's not bad. Different to keyboard, but keyboard stil has a shed load of mistakes.
 
Richdog said:
Do you realise what an absolute load of garbage that post is? Unless you were being ironic, in which case be better. :p
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How was is garbage? You can't seriously believe that Tablets will replace a PC, they just don't have the graphics power, and won't for years.

Look how long it took Nintendo to go from the Gameboy to the 3DS and the graphics are still **** lol
 
Glaucus said:
:confused: don't you remember before the tablet it was shockingly bad. I don't blame it on the tablet. It is worse at the moment as the tablet is broken, with phantom screen presses over the delete button, which then auto corrects to jibberish, when stuff gets deleted. When it's not doing that, it's not bad. Different to keyboard, but keyboard stil has a shed load of mistakes.
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I have to agree with Fox, but maybe it is just that I'm not used to typing on a touch screen, I can't fathom what it is but I can't type as fast as I can on a keyboard.
 
ince said:
iPads are good for browsing in bed not for business. They are a toy. Mine would not replace my pc.
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But that's not a the point of the thread.

Lot's of people going off topic. The point of the thread was will the original posters business shrink within the next 3-4 years.

The answer in my opinion without doubt yes. The home computer repair business will shrink drastically. and looking further along the line 10+ years ie if it's you long term job then I would be very worried.
 
Jay794 said:
How was is garbage?
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Well, lets see...


Jay794 said:
Tablets will never replace a desktop machine, the graphics, and pure power both in Ghz and usage just aren't comparable.

Tablets are great for general usage but can you really see COD, Halo or Diablo being half as good on a tablet as they on the PC? Not in this lifetime.... Angry Birds is about as good as it gets
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The bolded bit. First, tablets, will in our lifetime, have graphics half as good as that on the PC, this is imo not in doubt. Already the top-spec tablet GPU's on the market can produce graphics comparable to a PC from 7 or 8 years ago. The new GPU's coming out in 2013 are 4x+ more powerful than current gen. Mobile GP's have only begun to stretch their legs and set off from the starting blocks, and in the next 5 years we are going to see them increase in power exponentially every year or two to the point where they will rival modern consoles for the graphics output that they can achieve. PC's have the most power of any platform there is, but the overall horsepower is generally woefully underutilized because it is hardware that drives sales, and games only just start to get optimised for the current gen before the next big thing comes along and people upgrade again. Consoles, in comparison, get every bit of juice squeezed out of them for their 5 year or so lifecycle. The PC market is imo no longer a long-term sustainable business, we have seen the peak and glory of PC gaming, the golden era that we had for the last 15 years has passed, and the future is a relative few major and financially successful software development houses focussing on it, and the majority of titles becoming cross-platform.

Add to this cloud gaming which will mean super intensive games of DX11 and above playing on any tablet powerful enough and we have, again, proof that tablets will soon be a major force in gaming http://www.allvoices.com/news/12312674/video/92956499-dx11-games-running-on-asus-tablet

Certainly, your statement: "Angry birds is as good as it gets" is nothing short of, well, silly really. Mobile GPU's are going to get very powerful, and mobile gaming will become one of the biggest sources of development in the world. It's inevitable.
 
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Jay794 said:
Tablets are great for general usage but can you really see COD, Halo or Diablo being half as good on a tablet as they on the PC? Not in this lifetime.... Angry Birds is about as good as it gets
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Angry Birds has, on the other hand, seen unit sales figures that Call of Duty can only dream of. Roughly 50x as many copies shifted. It's silly to dismiss such popular gaming options.
 
I use a laptop/smartphone combo. I'd never have a desk at home.

in the workspace (where i've been tinkering around with tablets) the citrix receiver is incredibly useful. Also, every refresh sees more thin clients and less desktops.

IMO the desktop is largely past its sell by date. Other platforms offer greater convenience (laptop/tab depending on user needs) or much MUCH lower TCO (thin client in the workspace)
 
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