Taking another persons speeding fine.

[Mr_White]

Hi folks, someone asked me if I knew if there would be any repercussions from claiming they were driving the vehicle so they could take the points, but weren't driving it, never have, and aren't insured on it anyway.


It was a 40 in a 30 and the accused is now on 9 points and had already had a 40 in a 30 earlier that month, so was previously only on 3 months, the second fine was from an unfamiliar area where the accused was lost and had no idea of the area.

It's a company car and he's the only one insured or allowed to drive it, but someone has offered to take the points for him, since his livelihood relies on having a licence, as do most peoples.

So if someone was to claim they were driving the car to take the points, would they look into the insurance and whatnot to see if they're insured to drive it, then end up in court and charged for perverting the course of justice and whatever else they can charge you with.

So if anyone knows the procedure etc they go through in these situations, that'd be helpful so I can pass it on, cheers.

 

[Mr_White]

^ What he said.

That wouldn't work unless they'd been given permission to drive the car from the company though would it?

 

[Mr_White]

They have DOC but have never driven the vehicle or been given permission to by the company.

 

[Mr_White]

If his License is so important why did he not be more careful in the first place then? Being lost is no excuse for speeding is it? And if in fact he was lost I would have though he would be more likely to slow down and try and find out where he was etc. Driving around at 40 in a 30 is hardly

Try driving around in an area you don't know with people inches off your arse when you're already in a bad temper and it's very easy to get caught doing 40 in a 30, especially when it's poorly sign posted, cambridge is very bad for 40s in a 30 as well, which is where the other one was.

Most people need their car to make a living, and getting caught doing 40 in a 30 is in my opinion the most likely scenario you're going to get caught and doesn't exactly make them a bad driver, I think most people will agree with that.

Edit: he's on 9 points, not 12, and is leaving his current job anyway, so that's irrelevant.

 

[Mr_White]

was getting a bit confused then then i realised theres 2 mr whites

MW

Hey me

 

[Mr_White]

Its still no excuse, who's in charge of the car he drives? Him or the guys behind? Try that for a defence then, "Sorry M'lord I did not mean to kill cute kittens and small children but the guy behind me made me drive faster!"

What a lot of pish!!!!

If he's in a bad mood he should pullover and calm down. Maybe ask for some directions?

And its also easy to do 30 in a 30, Lift the right foot up! Maybe even gently press the middle pedal!

Flame ahead but you have no defence for speeding in a 30 then complaining about it after when you get done! After all most opf us can drive, pay attetnion to where we are going even if we dont know the road.

I Have learners that can drive in unknown areas and still monitor their speed with idiots trying to squeeze past etc.

Oh well, shame everyone can't be perfect like you, I've noticed since you've started posting here you're pretty much just preaching to everyone in motors at every oppurtunity.

 

[Mr_White]

No far from perfect, but still theres no excuse for your mate.

Or do you just like the posts that offer tea and sympathy? If I offer a veiw point based on experiance and the law etc why would that be preaching?

What makes my posts any less valid than yours? Oh and Ive been around a while I just dont often get the time to post.

Also, head + Brick wall = Pointless usually

Why would I want tea and sympathy when I'm just asking on behalf of someone?

Doesn't make any difference to me, I'd just rather have advice relevant to the situation instead of mr perfect ADI preaching like you do at every oppurtunity.

Cheers for all the advice so far guys, I'll pass it on.

 

[Mr_White]

Sorry, thought that was a relevant peice of advice was it not? Or is that preaching too?

I asked what is the procedure when someone takes another persons fine.

You come in the thread "Hi2u I'm an ADI if you hadn't noticed, lolz!", I've noticed you say you're an ADI in nearly every thread you preach, sorry, post in, then you just basically insult them instead of offering relevant advice.

He's on 9 points, not 12, and is already leaving his job, so no, I wouldn't say that was a relevant piece of advice, he's the last person you need to preach to about driving.

 

[Mr_White]

Not really, 9 points in 32 years of driving is hardly a lot.

 

[Mr_White]

if it's 32 years of driving nowhere else but around the same town then it counts for nothing.
i've driven the UK from top to bottom and at no point have i ever been unsure what the speed limit was on any given road whether i'd driven on it before or not.
now i've chosen to ignore it on occasion and i've been endorsed for it before too, but the "i didn't know what the limit was so it's not my fault" line just doesn't wash with me i'm afraid.

Most of it spent covering the UK and europe, you shouldn't always jump to conclusions

 

[Mr_White]

Got to loathe all the people on their high horses on this forum.

 

[Mr_White]

because i'm not sympathetic to the guy and go on to a tirade of anti-blair/scamera crap?

No, because I just asked for any infomation regarding the procedure and get people coming in the thread on their high horses making them self look perfect and just spamming the thread with ****.

 

[Mr_White]

There is no 'procedure' as you put it to pervert the course of justice, you just have to lie through your teeth.

As for perfect? Not not by a long shot, Better road driver than most? Definatly!!

I meant the procedure on what they check and go through if someone claims they were driving.

Which could possibly lead to a charge of perverting the course of justice if they find something to **** you with.

Although I think I've got all the advice I'm going to get now the thread has been derailed, cheers for everyone who's given relevant advice

 

[Mr_White]

incidentally, perverting the course of justice is a nasty offence.
the courts REALLY goto town on this one.
for the gamble to even look viable your friend must stand to lose a LOT!

personally i'd rather take the ban than risk showering with an ex pipe fitter called leroy.

Would it not be the person claiming they were driving that would get ****** over more though?