Taking Photos in Certain Places...

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sbi5ar

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My google fu is weak and I can't find a definitive answer on the internet so I was wondering if any one could answer my question... (if anyone else has a question about taking photos in certain places then feel free to hijack the thread :) )

So... Can I take my EOS 550D and 55-300mm lens into a stadium where an international (friendly) football game is taking place? Obviously I don't want to get there and be told I'm not allowed in.

The reason for asking is that your not allowed to take photos at certain league football games so was unsure if this spread to international games...

Help appreciated! (P.s. the game is tomorrow Wales v Norway!)
 
I'd also heard you aren't allowed to take photos (at least with decent kit) at major football games. I think it's down to a rights agreement.

I'd also over heard about it because my local Premiership Rugby Union team plays in a Football ground and one Photographer was getting a load of hassle from stewards about it, but he pointed out to them that it wasn't the case with Rugby.
 
Swordfish said:
AFAIK you cannot take photographs in privately owned places without prior permission.
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True...

But you don't see people being told to leave for taking a snapshot on their camera phone or compact. Where as turn up to a national football game with 'pro looking' equipment and you will be in trouble.
 
Just incase anyone was interested in the outcome of my little jolly to the football stadium...

Firstly, taking photos was no problem, had my telephoto lens on and was snapping away... The only problem I had was that I was unable to have a beer out on the "terrace", no problem in the box though... Very strange experience! Normally go to rugby games where the pints are flowing freely!
 
Swordfish said:
AFAIK you cannot take photographs in privately owned places without prior permission.
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I don't think that is quite accurate.

There are two issues:

Taking pictures on private property. The law that covers this is trespass. A landowner can make it a condition of entry to their property that you don't take pictures. If you don't comply, they can turf you out as a trespasser. That's a LONG way from "you cannot take photographs on private property", despite what the security womble at the mall might say. You'd have to be pretty determined to get nicked for it. If they are not treating the issue as one of trespass, they don't know what they are talking about.

Dataco's power relates to *publishing* photos (or football data). They don't really have a problem with you taking the photo but they'll come down on you like a ton of bricks if they catch you showing the photo to anyone else...

Andrew
 
Gaffer said:
I don't think that is quite accurate.

There are two issues:

Taking pictures on private property. The law that covers this is trespass. A landowner can make it a condition of entry to their property that you don't take pictures. If you don't comply, they can turf you out as a trespasser. That's a LONG way from "you cannot take photographs on private property", despite what the security womble at the mall might say. You'd have to be pretty determined to get nicked for it. If they are not treating the issue as one of trespass, they don't know what they are talking about.

Dataco's power relates to *publishing* photos (or football data). They don't really have a problem with you taking the photo but they'll come down on you like a ton of bricks if they catch you showing the photo to anyone else...

Andrew
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Perhaps you started your response BEFORE you got to the end of my sentance

Swordfish said:
AFAIK you cannot take photographs in privately owned places without prior permission.
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If you are in a private building and are taking photo but subsequently asked to stop then you must UNLESS you have permission.
 
Hi Swordfish, Your two statements do not amount to the same thing.

When you write: "You cannot take photographs in privately owned places without prior permission" This is false. There is no such law.

There are three states:

1) You may be free to be on the property.
2) You may be prohibited from being on the property
3) The landowner may grant you permission to be on the property subject to you fulfilling certain conditions.

Those conditions can be anything the landowner chooses.

For example, the landowner is within his rights to insist that you may not remain on his property whilst wearing a green shirt. He would be perfectly entitled to chuck you out if you insisted on wearing a green shirt.

However, there is no law which says that you must request permission to wear a green shirt on private property, in just the same way that there is no law that says that you must request permission to photograph on private property.

Similarly, he make it a condition of entry that you do not take photographs on his property. Again, he is entitled to do that.

But as you say, if you are on private property and asked to leave because you are taking photographs or wearing a green shirt, then yes, you must comply.

Clear?

Andrew
 
Gaffer said:
Hi Swordfish, Your two statements do not amount to the same thing.

When you write: "You cannot take photographs in privately owned places without prior permission" This is false. There is no such law.

There are three states:

1) You may be free to be on the property.
2) You may be prohibited from being on the property
3) The landowner may grant you permission to be on the property subject to you fulfilling certain conditions.

Those conditions can be anything the landowner chooses.

For example, the landowner is within his rights to insist that you may not remain on his property whilst wearing a green shirt. He would be perfectly entitled to chuck you out if you insisted on wearing a green shirt.

However, there is no law which says that you must request permission to wear a green shirt on private property, in just the same way that there is no law that says that you must request permission to photograph on private property.

Similarly, he make it a condition of entry that you do not take photographs on his property. Again, he is entitled to do that.

But as you say, if you are on private property and asked to leave because you are taking photographs or wearing a green shirt, then yes, you must comply.

Clear?

Andrew
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Thank you for your clear and concise reply, but I still have to point out one little issue that you have missed on each and every occasion - at no point did I say it was against the law, merely that you would probably need permission.

Crystal?

Swordfish
 
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