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TechSpot: 280X cooler on 290X, Dramatic improvment.
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You have to laugh at the 20 to 30c drop in temps with a cooler designed for a lesser GPU.
Hopefully Intel learn this lesson more than anyone, they don't even try to be competitively priced with a horribly cheap heatsink that no one uses and just increases the manufacturing and transport costs.
The first thing Anand did was pull that cooler off to see what was up with it, low and behold its a 7950/70 Reference cooler, oh dear god!
I have always said they should have put the 7990 cooler on it, i understand that AMD want to give AIB's the opportunity to design something better and justify a £30+ price hike, but to glue a completely inadequate chunk of Alloy on it and have it boil was idiotic.
AMD have a habit of doing something like this time and time again, they are capable of making truly amazing stuff, they often do, but then invariably hold it back or spoil it in some way because of idiotic finishing decisions.
Who are they paying 200K or whatever a year to let this happen? i wouldn't,
Is it ready? NO, its ##### not ready, let that out the door and you will be shot!
There was an article about 6 months or probably closer to a year ago about AMD working on a new cooler and they said they wanted to keep costs down (understandable) but I feel for very little money, they could have put a much better cooler on it and the Fermi jokes would not have been thrown around.
Price for performance, AMD have done great but I would rather spend another £20 on a decent cooler.
Price for performance, AMD have done great but I would rather spend another £20 on a decent cooler.
Are there going to be any aftermarket blower type coolers? All the companies seem to concentrate on 2 or 3 fan systems that blow hot air directly back into the case and that's not an option for me with a Silverstone FT03 I need a blower solution and I fear the AMD reference cooler won't cut it I may have to return my order once it arrives.
Both of you are correct, but, the cooler works as advertised at keeping temps@95c or below out the box.
Are temps high?
Yes.
Is it loud?
Yes, but it isn't that much louder than Nvidias blowers,quieter than Fermi's even, blowers are loud by nature, regardless the team, but work as advertised.
AMD priced the 290 series way way below what Nvidia were charging for their 780/Titan while performing at the exact same level, as I said way below Nvidias over inflated pricing, if anything AMD should be congratulated by bringing more higher end gpu's into the affordability bracket including Nvidias offerings after their price reduction was forced by AMD to keep them competitive.
Before the usual suspects come in and say but... but..., the fact of the matter, Nvidia reduced prices to stay competitive as a direct reaction to AMD's lower pricing, end of.
I'm gaming on BF4@52c tops under my AC Xtreme, while no doubt being quieter at that temp than any custom AIB cooler that is going to appear, custom cards are never going to hit that temp, does that make them rubbish?
No, they hit a target price with an equilibrium on performance/noise much the same as AMD's reference R290's.
The press is what AMD don't seem to understand, every self respecting large company has a team of experts who know their market and its press inside out, its their job to look at a product and find fault before the press do.
What are those guys at AMD doing? are they actually working for Nvidia?
95c, Holy #### the press got all their Christmases and birthdays in one go. how AMD didn't see this coming is astonishing.
In any-case, they had a pretty decent cooler ready in the form of the 7990 cooler, nothing wrong with it and it would have done a much better job of cooling it.
They went through the time and expense of designing a brand-new shroud. wasted, to keep costs down just stick with what you already have and know works.
HIS Ice Q brother and they have a decent blower cooler
+1, the HIS Ice Q are excellent. i hope they make a 290/X with one.
now where can i buy me self a 280 cooler
Just in case anyone thinks they can bolt one on, Tommy's tried it already.
It doesn't completely cover the R290 core due to the coolers raised contact point because of the core shroud cover on the 79/280 series:
The corners past the yellow lines have zero contact with the heatsinks/cooling with those coolers.
Long term damage could be a possibility and those sites should be shot for not having a warning about it on their articles.
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Can I buy this cooler separately or will I have to wait for it to be released with it attached?
To be fair that cheap pos cooler can manage an overclocked 2700k at 4.0/4.2Ghz (mine was like this while waiting for WC parts), impressive for what it is
(Haswell is likely a different story). Besides if you hate it that much buy OEM I think it(Ice-Q) will appear on the 290 matt, it's a cracking cooler for CrossFire, they'll just come with a flat heatsink and possibly a modified plate for the extra vram, I reckon the IceQx2 will sit on the 290X too.