Teradici & PCoIP: Talk to me.

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Hi,

I'm posting this here as I suspect most of the use is via corporate systems etc. This is for a potential home solution so I'm curious to know how it performs with fast moving 3d stuff and yes I am curious about games.

So, bit of background. I'm about to lose my office to the 2nd child and therefore be rendered deskless and won't have space for my gaming PC. In the meantime, I have rackmounted a number of supermicro servers running vSPhere 6 and have no trouble adding my gaming PC to this setup... However, I need to feed gaming to any of the HTPCs in the house so I can continue to play games in any available room but also can then move rooms at a moments notice.

I've been looking at the Remote Workstation cards which can take the output from the GPU and pass it through the network to either a dedicated client OR via software to an existing PC.

So, what I would like to find out is how good the systems work? I know how the system works (at a basic level) but I'd like to know more about perceived latency both in the visual stream but also any mouse, keyboard latency; does it work as effectively as they suggest? Any downfalls etc.? $400 NZD for the Tera2 card (eBay) is far more effective use of money than $250k NZD on an extension for an office...

So, if you have any experience, any at all I'd love to hear from you.

Cheers

Chris
 
Hi Rroff and thanks, unfortunately I run an AMD GPU so that won't work for me.

Steam works fine but I'd prefer a client agnostic process for Origin, Steam, Uplay, StarCitizen etc... Steam home streaming will be what I will be using initially but I just wanted to explore other options.
 
How about selling the PC and buying a gaming laptop? $400 + whatever you get for the PC should be a good start...
 
Actually just ordered a workstation today with a PCoIP card and the Teradici software. I think they only claim 30FPS which is fine for what we will be doing with it (running casting simulations remotely and customer demonstrations of results) but not sure that's good enough for gaming.

There's a video of some guy playing crisis over a PCoIP connection - albeit about 7 years ago so I guess it should have moved on a lot from then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FAoJfU4Iwo
 
Hi Daver & thanks.

I've read that the newer cards can push up to 60FPS, but it is dependant at resolution too... I'd be interested in your views on the matter; although I've just seen a Tera 2 card drop by $75USD so I might just take a punt and have a go...
 
There's two types of cards really.

1) PCoIP (ie apex) which accelerates the encoding of the PCoIP element.
2) GPU offload (ie nvidia GRID) which can offload applications to hardware.

The problem with both with either is that you need a lot of bandwidth depending on resolution, colour depth etc... and if it has to be lossless that can be quite a lot to decode placing a not inconsiderable amount of effort on the receiver.

1080P youtube I've seen hit 30Mbps constant stream and consumed 6+Ghz on the host with no offloading of any kind. It soon mounts up.
 
Hi Ecksmen,

I've been looking at the Tera 2 & 3 Remote Workstation hardware cards which effectively take the gpu output via cables and then bring them in to the card, similar to the old voodoo accelerator cards before they gained general display output.

From what I have read a 1080p @ 60 FPS is handled fine via gigabit lan and I'm all connected into a 24 port switch so that should be fine, along with latency.

Software decoding is what I'm interested in too as you're right, it can be quite intensive but when using this, the system wouldn't be doing anything else so if I use all the cores in handling the incoming stream would be fine, as long as it won't spike above... to be honest, I've got a ticket with Teradici to establish how many mega pixels can be pushed in software vs the hardwares 250mpps as you need 130mpps for 1080p @ 60 FPS.
 
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