Texas synagogue siege: Teens held in UK as Briton named as hostage-taker

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British citizen Malik Faisal Akram, 44, from Blackburn, was shot dead after a standoff with police in Colleyville.

"The force said the two teenagers were arrested "as part of the ongoing investigation into the attack" and were being held in custody for questioning."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60019251

Usual suspects?

 

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You're a bit late to the party

The forum is.
But I thought...why not since there was no thread.

 

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I mean, it's all in your link really...



Luckily nobody else was hurt, though I can imagine they were absolutely ******** themselves.

More relevant is that he flew in to America and was able to buy a gun almost immediately.

His brother wants to know who got him the visa and gun as he was known to police.
More than meets the eye,

 

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But was he known to U.K. police?
This was in the BBC report on the incident,
“There has been no confirmation yet of whether Akram was already known to the UK authorities but he had no prior police record in the US.”
If he had no criminal convictions he wouldn’t need a visa to get into the U.S., he could have travelled on ESTA.
As for the gun, if you’re prepared to go to sketchy areas and take a chance on asking questions of the right people you’ll be able to lay your hands on a weapon over there.
He must have been very persuasive to get into the synagogue, a Jewish friend in New Jersey told me that it’s easier to get into Fort Knox with all the security that synagogues have these days.
The same friend sent me a screenshot of the New York Times with a piece naming British Citizen Malik Faisal Akram.
I told her that it wasn’t a fine old Anglo-Saxon name, and that he might be British born, but it was an absolute lock that his ancestors weren’t Vikings, nor did they come over with William the Conqueror in 1066.

He was known to the MI5
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60038207

Another known terrorist left to walk about.

 

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How many more cases can you cite? The best scenario is no guns in there full stop. If it means metal detectors at the doors, well the US has crazy gun laws that mean crazy people have easy access to guns.

Door metal detectors don't always work.
There is nothing anyone can do. If it was not a gun, then it would have been a big knife.

 

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You have metal detectors at the doors. Shooting someone is far easier and less personal than stabbing them. No you aren't always going to stop everyone, so yes no dead was just for effect, someone could break someone's neck but US gun laws have got them in this situation, I'm not sure more guns is the answer. The more guns you allow in somewhere the greater the chance they are going to get used one day.

If one was to get rid of guns then there would be 60,000+ unemployed and the US gov would lose $20 billion in tax's.
Then you have the knock of effect.

The UK is an island. But no one can stop guns coming here.

 

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You realise the exact same excuse was used for cigarettes and cigarette advertising.

Maybe the US just needs a personality transplant. Lots of countries have liberal gun laws but refrain from using them on each other in such numbers.

You're talking about the UK and not the US where they pay $700 billion in tobacco revenues and US$250 billion in tax revenues in the US.

And my daughter has told me that my gun that's in a Pasco gun range.
Has still killed no one.

 

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Only because they keep raising the tax rates on them. 1980 631 billion cigarettes smoked. 2015 267 billion smoked yet revenue remain around the same. Pretty sure there aren't anywhere near as many people being employed in cigarette industry today as in 1980



Well if all guns were locked up at gun ranges then the problem would be solved wouldn't it. Its good to know your daughter is a responsible gun owner, maybe she got her brains from her mother

You missed the point by a country mile.

The gun did not kill anyone because it was in the hands of a law abiding person and not some scum.