The AI is taking our jerbs thread

[mid_gen]

This is very unlikely to work, because AI's like chatgpt are generating text content from websites, so all you would be doing is recycling content. The problem is you won't get ranked on Google. No other sites will link to "AI slop". Then there's the problem that people won't use your links either, as they'll use their cashback site. Affiliate marketing by ranking text-based websites is now very hard to make money from in my opinion.

Many of the top results on Google are AI slop these days, they don’t care whether it’s a human or an AI that’s generated it, if it’s getting impressions they’re getting paid.

I make 50 dollars a month off a single affiliate link on one YouTube video mind. Definitely better returns there but much harder to just generate with AI.

 

[arknor]

AI does not intrinsically generate money for you, or anything that you can exchange for money. It's just a tool.

you can mine memes or videos of historical figures

it's just a tool, like crypto, the stockmarket or matched betting

 

[radderfire]

Many of the top results on Google are AI slop these days, they don’t care whether it’s a human or an AI that’s generated it, if it’s getting impressions they’re getting paid.

I make 50 dollars a month off a single affiliate link on one YouTube video mind. Definitely better returns there but much harder to just generate with AI.

Can you give me some examples of these top results as I'd like to take a look?

I would say YouTube is better than SEO for a beginner trying to make money via affiliate marketing. However, that's doing it as a content creator. With AI generation, you have the problem of making compelling content that people want to watch. It's a different problem from SERPs, but a problem nevertheless.

 

[mid_gen]

Can you give me some examples of these top results as I'd like to take a look?

I would say YouTube is better than SEO for a beginner trying to make money via affiliate marketing. However, that's doing it as a content creator. With AI generation, you have the problem of making compelling content that people want to watch. It's a different problem from SERPs, but a problem nevertheless.

The classic one that sits at the top of the SEO rankings is CPUBenchmark, always top result, just a load of scraped specs regurgitated by AI. There’s loads of review sites that are AI generated, you don’t need to look hard to find them.

 

[radderfire]

The classic one that sits at the top of the SEO rankings is CPUBenchmark, always top result, just a load of scraped specs regurgitated by AI. There’s loads of review sites that are AI generated, you don’t need to look hard to find them.

Well, I'm not convinced yet. If you want to provide the search keyword they are ranking for, and then the url of the page that is ranking, then I'll take another look. I would also say that scraping has been around for years, and is not something I would classify as AI. We probably have different definitions of AI, and yours is a lot broader than mine.

 

[NickK]

you can mine memes or videos of historical figures

it's just a tool, like crypto, the stockmarket or matched betting

It won't be long before the nutters find their own manufactured evidence, people believe it and wars happen.

 

[mid_gen]

Number of new UK entry-level jobs has dived since ChatGPT launch – research

Vacancies for graduate jobs, apprenticeships, internships and junior jobs with no degree requirement have dropped 32%, Adzuna finds

www.theguardian.com

I did some part time lecturing at a local uni recently, was pretty sad when I nipped back for the graduation show, how few had actually landed a job, even from one of the best courses in the country.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Number of new UK entry-level jobs has dived since ChatGPT launch – research

Vacancies for graduate jobs, apprenticeships, internships and junior jobs with no degree requirement have dropped 32%, Adzuna finds

www.theguardian.com

I did some part time lecturing at a local uni recently, was pretty sad when I nipped back for the graduation show, how few had actually landed a job, even from one of the best courses in the country.

You see, i told u that ai will affect a lot of jobs.

We are dooomed mate

 

[D.P.]

Number of new UK entry-level jobs has dived since ChatGPT launch – research

Vacancies for graduate jobs, apprenticeships, internships and junior jobs with no degree requirement have dropped 32%, Adzuna finds

www.theguardian.com

I did some part time lecturing at a local uni recently, was pretty sad when I nipped back for the graduation show, how few had actually landed a job, even from one of the best courses in the country.

Correlation does not equal causation. I'm not saying AI is not contributing, but In general there is a large reduction in hiring over the last 2 years. This in part due to the massive hiring spree during Covid. Trade-wars, geopolitical tensions, and global uncertainty in the economy is making many companies proactively reduce staff levels or employ hiring freezed.

Unfortunately graduates always tend to bare the brunt of cutbacks because with less experience they add less value, so become more of a future investment. In good times companies are willing yo invest and hope that a few graduates not only excel but stick with the company

 

[NickK]

If you think the UK's feeling snafu - then have look at the Chinese university graduates. No jobs, even for the top scorers, and even worse AI adding to the woes!

 

[D.P.]

Good summary here

Agentic AI Is the New Blockchain — And 80% of Projects Will Fail

When History Rhymes in Code

medium.com

The Cost of Quality in AI Engineering: Why Agentic Systems Fail

This reflection article is based on Sayash Kapoor's talk "Building and evaluating AI Agents — Sayash Kapoor, AI Snake Oil" at the AI Engineer conference. There's a peculiar paradox in AI engineering: the first 80% of the work feels like magic, while the last 20% feels like alchemy.

www.linkedin.com

Agents of change or agents of chaos? The reality of Agentic AI

Agentic AI is the latest buzzword but how realistic is it to deploy this technology today given generative AI’s tendency to hallucinate?

www.bloorresearch.com

 

[413x]

Number of new UK entry-level jobs has dived since ChatGPT launch – research

Vacancies for graduate jobs, apprenticeships, internships and junior jobs with no degree requirement have dropped 32%, Adzuna finds

www.theguardian.com

I did some part time lecturing at a local uni recently, was pretty sad when I nipped back for the graduation show, how few had actually landed a job, even from one of the best courses in the country.

Was going to post this.
Not surprised.
I would be fuming if I had taken a degree in a non direct to employment (ie medicine) area now.
Wonder if this will have an impact on kids going.

If I had kids coming up to uni I'd advise even more so not to go and do a trade.
Its something I regret doing (a useless degree) , but now it's even more important.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Was going to post this.
Not surprised.
I would be fuming if I had taken a degree in a non direct to employment (ie medicine) area now.
Wonder if this will have an impact on kids going.

If I had kids coming up to uni I'd advise even more so not to go and do a trade.
Its something I regret doing (a useless degree) , but now it's even more important.

Yea kids need to learn to be a plumber etc

 

[mid_gen]

Was going to post this.
Not surprised.
I would be fuming if I had taken a degree in a non direct to employment (ie medicine) area now.
Wonder if this will have an impact on kids going.

If I had kids coming up to uni I'd advise even more so not to go and do a trade.
It’s something I regret doing (a useless degree) , but now it's even more important.

You may appreciate the value of your degree more if/when you emigrate. That’s the main use I’ve had from mine certainly, although my various employers in big finance/tech firms would have probably overlooked someone with no degree as well.

 

[malachi]

If I had kids coming up to uni I'd advise even more so not to go and do a trade.
Its something I regret doing (a useless degree) , but now it's even more important.

You cant really win here.

"Go to uni and get a degree for a white collar job" But you can be easily laid off due to outsourcing, ageism, AI, etc when working in an office.

"Go do a trade because everyone needs plumbers, builders, etc" Great when you are younger, not so great when you are older. Knees start to go, you have back problems. Health and safety regulations stop you using certain tools after a certain amount of years. People half your age work quicker, fast and cheaper. While your aging body cant keep up anymore.

No side is safe.

 

[arknor]

someone explain how chatgptr is taking jobs?

are you telling me the middle classes can;'t compete with sloppy AI

Ask chatgpt what jigsaw blade you need to cut acrylic.

he should tell you the wrong blade multiple times in a row
for me it said

Bosch T144DP (its for wood)
Bosch T118A (for metal...)
Bosch T308BF (plastic coated boards)
then

TL;DR:​

• There isn’t a perfect “acrylic” blade made by Bosch or Dewalt that’s widely available.
• Olson plastic cutting blades or very fine-toothed bi-metal blades (12-14 TPI) are your best bet.
• Combine with low speed and no orbital action.

Then I just hit up google myself...
Bosch T102BF jigsaw blade is specifically designed for cutting PMMA acrylic sheets.

yet chat GPT claims ?Bosch don't make an acrylic cutting jigsaw blade.

AI are useless whos using them.. they can't even tell you basic info, literally worse than google..


do you know why it tells the wrong blades? because loads of stupid websites list the wrong blades as being for acryllic, it doesn't bother to check the manufacturer it checks etailers.... or top 10 lists on google made by AI


I wouldn';t trust chatgpt to inventory a fridge how are people using it for work related tasks? maybe your 20% more productive but unless your double checking everything it says then it's probably making loads of mistakes

 

[413x]

You may appreciate the value of your degree more if/when you emigrate. That’s the main use I’ve had from mine certainly, although my various employers in big finance/tech firms would have probably overlooked someone with no degree as well.

Yes this is probably it's main use actually. Points for emigration. Although I'd probably have an easier job Emigrating with a trade!

 

[413x]

You cant really win here.

"Go to uni and get a degree for a white collar job" But you can be easily laid off due to outsourcing, ageism, AI, etc when working in an office.

"Go do a trade because everyone needs plumbers, builders, etc" Great when you are younger, not so great when you are older. Knees start to go, you have back problems. Health and safety regulations stop you using certain tools after a certain amount of years. People half your age work quicker, fast and cheaper. While your aging body cant keep up anymore.

No side is safe.

Very much a risk. I think if you're in a trade you have to work towards employing others over time for that very thing.

On flip side I'd be mortgage free now. So that's 200k I wouldn't have to find!

 

[D.P.]

Microsoft plans to replace many of the salespeople it laid off with more technical roles to compete with OpenAI, Google

The company's recent job cuts included thousands of salespeople, many of whom will be replaced by more technical roles to sell AI.

www.businessinsider.com

This is what i see happening. Layoffs from AI in some areas, but hiring more technical roles like software developers.

The risks are for the low-skilled workers whose jobs were at risk from automation and Off-shoring anyway

 

[mid_gen]

Microsoft plans to replace many of the salespeople it laid off with more technical roles to compete with OpenAI, Google

The company's recent job cuts included thousands of salespeople, many of whom will be replaced by more technical roles to sell AI.

www.businessinsider.com

This is what i see happening. Layoffs from AI in some areas, but hiring more technical roles like software developers.

The risks are for the low-skilled workers whose jobs were at risk from automation and Off-shoring anyway

I don’t know why you’re so committed to this idea that technical roles are safe.

I’ll tell that to my friends at Microsoft who just lost their jobs, they’re all highly skilled software developers, more than one of them with PhDs.