The AMD Driver Thread

GoogalyMoogaly · 19 Nov 2017 at 15:38

shankly1985 said:
From what I understand you select what you want to install.

I have everything installed from AMD and my install package size is only 356mb wouldn't call that bloatware tbh considering the size off games and applications these days that is quite small. Even if you never touched Wattman, Game profiles or Relive "Optional" would you ever notice this space being used up?
Am not sure what the fuss is about here? Missing something?

You don't understand why people don't want to install bloatware?

If everything you install is made up of 50% bloatware then when I've installed 1TB of stuff it's taken up 2TB of space. So yes, I'd notice an extra 1TB of space.
The AMD drivers by themselves aren't going to make a difference but if we give them a free pass to include as much bloatware as they want why shouldn't we let Windows and our anti-virus and anti-malware and firewall and web browser and zip utility and video player do the same thing?

V F · 19 Nov 2017 at 16:55

shankly1985 said:
From what I understand you select what you want to install.

I have everything installed from AMD and my install package size is only 356mb wouldn't call that bloatware tbh considering the size off games and applications these days that is quite small. Even if you never touched Wattman, Game profiles or Relive "Optional" would you ever notice this space being used up?
Am not sure what the fuss is about here? Missing something?

Oh mah gawd! The resources man! The resources!111111

Most I’ve seen complain about, Afterburner and EVGA Precision add some input delay. I’m curious how AMD’s would be...

locodice · 20 Nov 2017 at 07:03

ubersonic said:
Bah, yet more bloatware added to the already super bloated drivers in an attempt to out bloatware Nvidia's bloatware drivers >.>

I just want a slim driver with no bundled software crap like they used to make /cry

If I want to overclock the card or run overlays the are better optional/aftermarket apps for it.

It's a real shame because from a GUI POV Catalyst was always way better than Detonator/Forceware

Its NOT bloatware...its bloatware when you install 3rd party programs.

If you dont like it dont install ReLive, just the driver (minimal setup).

I better have OSD in Crimson Panel...than installing 3rd party programs for that.

ubersonic · 20 Nov 2017 at 09:07

locodice said:
Its NOT bloatware...

It's additional software that's bundled with the software you want to install, of course it's bloatware, hence why AMD's driver packs have increased in size sixfold since they started adding more and more of it.

Adding substandard overclocking/monitoring/OSD/streaming/recording tools into the drivers was a dumb decision by both red and green vendors. There are much better tools available for the tiny percentage of users that actually use/want them.

locodice said:
If you dont like it dont install ReLive, just the driver (minimal setup).

Others have already explained that thankfully, it wasn't very intuitive as AMDs site makes it sound like that's just a web based installer.

shankly1985 · 20 Nov 2017 at 09:34

ubersonic said:
It's additional software that's bundled with the software you want to install, of course it's bloatware, hence why AMD's driver packs have increased in size sixfold since they started adding more and more of it.

Adding substandard overclocking/monitoring/OSD/streaming/recording tools into the drivers was a dumb decision by both red and green vendors. There are much better tools available for the tiny percentage of users that actually use/want them.

Others have already explained that thankfully, it wasn't very intuitive as AMDs site makes it sound like that's just a web based installer.

Wattman aka overdrive has always been within drivers going way back. Recording and streaming is an optional install, and imo OSD part of it will also be optional installation.

AMD have actually reduced the installation size since changing from CCC and its system requirements is much lower.

ubersonic · 20 Nov 2017 at 10:08

shankly1985 said:
AMD have actually reduced the installation size since changing from CCC

2017:

2014:

2012:

Dude, it's cool you're fine with the bloatware and that's up to you, but don't try and pretend it's not a legitimate grip for those of us who aren't.

ICDP · 20 Nov 2017 at 10:35

ubersonic said:
2017:

2014:

2012:

Dude, it's cool you're fine with the bloatware and that's up to you, but don't try and pretend it's not a legitimate grip for those of us who aren't.

The download may be that size and indeed the install if you install everything. For those like myself who have no need for game recording etc, it's possible to do a minimal install of drivers only.

locodice · 20 Nov 2017 at 10:41

Recording/OSD/ And all the other stuff they/will add...its the most wanted features we are asking/vote...(maybe not you, but hundreds of people).

We are in 2017 some people wanna record (with OSD) upload to youtube or whatever, either for fun or not..

Also twitch streaming (big influence nowadays, again either for fun or not)...

Again no offence but if you dont like that stuff...install the minimal...Personally i prefer having everything bundled in Crimson Driver than using 10 different programs.

500mb is nothing. Its like what 2-3 minutes download?

17.11.2 - 318mb.
17.11.1 - 404mb.

Steampunk · 20 Nov 2017 at 11:09

Seriously, in this day and age of terabytes of storage and gigabytes of memory, people really care about a few hundred megs of stuff they don't even have to install if they don't want it?

There's probably more people care about the added functionality than there are people that care about a couple of hundred megs of installation they can throw away after they have installed what they want.

locodice · 20 Nov 2017 at 11:15

Steampunk said:
Seriously, in this day and age of terabytes of storage and gigabytes of memory, people really care about a few hundred megs of stuff they don't even have to install if they don't want it?

There's probably more people care about the added functionality than there are people that care about a couple of hundred megs of installation they can throw away after they have installed what they want.

Exactly!!...Actually i dont have seen anyone complaining about the MB or anything else...they are happy about the OSD implementation thats coming actually..

Im also happy because im gonna get rid off MSI Afterburner.

r22snapper · 20 Nov 2017 at 11:22

One picture from my camera is bigger than my first hard drive!!!!!11111!

DragonQ · 20 Nov 2017 at 11:28

The issue with bloatware isn't normally about disk space usage, it's about extra crap running in the background on your computer and/or "phoning home" all the time.

As long as it's not forcefully installed it's fine.

shankly1985 · 20 Nov 2017 at 11:51

Just seems unnecessary nit picking.

EsaT · 20 Nov 2017 at 12:32

locodice said:
Recording/OSD/ And all the other stuff they/will add...its the most wanted features we are asking/vote...(maybe not you, but hundreds of people).

And just how can some basic recording program waste that much space?
Just look at what some basic video cutting and encoding tool like Avidemux takes!
And that's GUI program...

Steampunk said:
Seriously, in this day and age of terabytes of storage and gigabytes of memory, people really care about a few hundred megs of stuff they don't even have to install if they don't want it?

At this rate programs whose only function is showing that "Hello, World" text line takes soon 500MB of space!
And when more stuff does same thing the result is that you need lot more hardware to just do same old thing at same performance!

V F · 20 Nov 2017 at 13:01

locodice said:
Exactly!!...Actually i dont have seen anyone complaining about the MB or anything else...they are happy about the OSD implementation thats coming actually..

Im also happy because im gonna get rid off MSI Afterburner.

MSI Afterburner is awful. I can feel it screwing with the input delays trying to crouchslide with Slash in Quake Champions. Close the program and key input is flawless.

locodice · 20 Nov 2017 at 13:03

Come on guys we are almost in 2018..stop ''bitching'' about space...

V F said:
MSI Afterburner is awful. I can feel it screwing with the input delays trying to crouchslide with Slash in Quake Champions. Close the program and key input is flawless.

Thats another reason im happy with AMD is gonna have OSD.

V F · 20 Nov 2017 at 13:08

Funny though, the developer over on Guru3D wouldn’t like my comment. I’ve seen numerous discussions implying there are no input delays. It is very obvious since everything in Quake requires precise timing and it interrupts the movements.

EVGA Precision is another awful one that does it as well yet is even worse. Hide the stats and it’ll crash the games.

LoadsaMoney · 20 Nov 2017 at 13:18

17.11.2s ok for Vega 64s ?

shankly1985 · 20 Nov 2017 at 14:22

LoadsaMoney said:
17.11.2s ok for Vega 64s ?

No issues here, you now running vega?

LoadsaMoney · 20 Nov 2017 at 14:26

shankly1985 said:
No issues here, you now running vega?

Thanks, i will be tomorrow, got the LC, as they knocked £100 off em, couldn't say no to that.