The AMD Navi Thread

Darujhistan · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:28

4K8KW10 said:
30% deficit is enormous, the card brings only losses for AMD who are forced to sell it below its BOM value.
It should have been cancelled as a consumer variant, and instead AMD should have offered RX 480 X2 or something.
Larger performance out of two Polaris and maybe the game developers would finally begin to optimise for multi-GPU solutions.

How many times did they repeat that the Vega is not for gamers, they even promised Vega II to never appear as a gaming product. A promise which was broken later.

When was the last time either company clumped two identical cards together into one?

The old x2 style cards are really a thing of the past. Plus of course as soon as AMD release anything its 'Heat/noise blah blah' so why play into that by releasing a card that's going to difficult to cool and power hungry as hell?

robfosters · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:33

4K8KW10 said:
30% deficit is enormous, the card brings only losses for AMD who are forced to sell it below its BOM value.
It should have been cancelled as a consumer variant, and instead AMD should have offered RX 480 X2 or something.
Larger performance out of two Polaris and maybe the game developers would finally begin to optimise for multi-GPU solutions.

How many times did they repeat that the Vega is not for gamers, they even promised Vega II to never appear as a gaming product. A promise which was broken later.

Yeah, been reading around, can see what you’re saying. I might consider selling my Vega 64 and putting the money towards an aftermarket 5700XT when they are released, or maybe a 2070 super.

4K8KW10 · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:34

Darujhistan said:
When was the last time either company clumped two identical cards together into one?

The old x2 style cards are really a thing of the past. Plus of course as soon as AMD release anything its 'Heat/noise blah blah' so why play into that by releasing a card that's going to difficult to cool and power hungry as hell?

I think the future is chiplets, anyways. DX12 supports multi-GPU.
How did they offer the Fury X?

Darujhistan · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:42

4K8KW10 said:
I think the future is chiplets, anyways. DX12 supports multi-GPU.
How did they offer the Fury X?

So 3 years or so ago? And what a massive success that was. Multi GPU's strapped together is a thing of the past like SLI/CF. That's why you don't see them anymore. You might be right about chiplets etc but strapping two cards together? I think that's the past.

Martini1991 · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:46

Darujhistan said:
So 3 years or so ago? And what a massive success that was. Multi GPU's strapped together is a thing of the past like SLI/CF. That's why you don't see them anymore. You might be right about chiplets etc but strapping two cards together? I think that's the past.

Fury X wasn't a multi-GPU.

Last multi graphics card was the 295x2, so 5 years ago. But it proves your point.

4K8KW10 · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:50

Martini1991 said:
Fury X wasn't a multi-GPU.

Last multi graphics card was the 295x2, so 5 years ago. But it proves your point.

Radeon Pro Duo, Capsaicin X2

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-duo.c2828#gallery-4

And the new Radeon™ Pro Vega II Duo https://www.amd.com/en/graphics/workstations-radeon-pro-vega-ii

Jay85 · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:50

I miss the old days of having 2 chips on 1 board, gave me fanny flutters :rolleyes:

Darujhistan · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:51

Martini1991 said:
Fury X wasn't a multi-GPU.

Last multi graphics card was the 295x2, so 5 years ago. But it proves your point.

I just took it on trust it was two strapped togther. Cheers for clearing it up. X2's were a short-term trend nothing more than that.

Phixsator · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:51

I think Vega is a good piece of hardware, which is why i ended up buying a Vega card. The problem with Vega is not the raw performance available but how much work is required to actually utilize all of it. We can see what happens if a game is optimized properly for the architecture like Forza is. Then the numbers are suddenly very competitive but of course this is not always the case and Forza is a rare example in this regard. However I'm personally very happy with the performance I've been getting with a bit of tuning in Wattman. Games like Division 2 is running great for me, so is rainbow six siege and Overwatch. The most important thing for me which is frame to frame latency which is very smooth and steady.

Martini1991 · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:54

4K8KW10 said:
Radeon Pro Duo, Capsaicin X2 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-duo.c2828#gallery-4

Was this actually a solid launch?
Pro Duo brings up the workstation Polaris Multi GPU.

And the "reviews" are previews and dead links.

LtMatt · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:55

There were two version of the Radeon Pro Duo. The first Pro Duo (AIO water cooled) was using 2x Fiji dies and was aimed at the consumer market. The second Pro Duo (blue air cooled) was based on Polaris dies and was aimed at the workstation market.

Martini1991 · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:59

LtMatt said:
There were two version of the Radeon Pro Duo. The first Pro Duo (AIO water cooled) was using 2x Fiji dies and was aimed at the consumer market. The second Pro Duo (blue air cooled) was based on Polaris dies and was aimed at the workstation market.

Must have been rare.
I mean Fury X and Fury went EOL quickly themselves.

Can't find any reviews of the Fiji Pro Duo.

LtMatt · 20 Jul 2019 at 11:05

Martini1991 said:
Must have been rare.
I mean Fury X and Fury went EOL quickly themselves.

Can't find any reviews of the Fiji Pro Duo.

I had two of them, posted pictures on this forum. Bought from OcuK.

They were nice cards, but not that practical for gaming.

4K8KW10 · 20 Jul 2019 at 11:30

The Fury X was the last top card from AMD which was able to compete with nvidia's top cards.

Review Crossfire https://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/10/06/amd_radeon_r9_fury_x_crossfire_at_4k_review/5

Martini1991 · 20 Jul 2019 at 11:38

4K8KW10 said:
The Fury X was the last top card from AMD which was able to compete with nvidia's top cards.

Review Crossfire https://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/10/06/amd_radeon_r9_fury_x_crossfire_at_4k_review/5

Fury X was the first time I didn't buy an AMD flagship in years.
It is not a card I'd put a positive spin on.

Illuminist · 20 Jul 2019 at 11:48

LtMatt said:
I had two of them, posted pictures on this forum. Bought from OcuK.

They were nice cards, but not that practical for gaming.

There is a dual vega wx card that I've been dying to find for sale but although I can find it I can't find where to buy it?

V340 I believe it's called

LtMatt · 20 Jul 2019 at 11:51

Illuminist said:
There is a dual vega wx card that I've been dying to find for sale but although I can find it I can't find where to buy it?

V340 I believe it's called

Aye it's a workstation card i believe, don't know much about it.

Illuminist · 20 Jul 2019 at 11:52

Martini1991 said:
Fury X was the first time I didn't buy an AMD flagship in years.
It is not a card I'd put a positive spin on.

I bought one it was just as fast as the 980ti ish.
But was completely un tweak able in any way whatso ever, sold 7970s in Crossfire to buy one then sold it to buy vega.

Illuminist · 20 Jul 2019 at 11:53

LtMatt said:
Aye it's a workstation card i believe, don't know much about it.

I need it for the collection, where would I buy such a thing?? I can't find it for sale anywhere, been looking since last year

Grim5 · 20 Jul 2019 at 11:53

Jay85 said:
I miss the old days of having 2 chips on 1 board, gave me fanny flutters

Flutters? That’s just lag and stuttering.......

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