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The AMD Radeon R9 285 Thread

Gives me more hope that the next nvidia cards with 256 bit buses aren't going to be nerfed by it
 
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NVidia responds.:)

NVIDIA Tweaking GeForce GTX 770 Price to Compete with R9 285

NVIDIA's response to AMD Radeon R9 285 isn't major (a new product launch). The company believes it already has the products out there to take on it. The company is likely working with add-in card partners, and retailers, to tweak pricing of its performance-segment GeForce GTX 770 2GB, bringing its price around the US $275 mark, $25 more than the cheapest R9 285, and roughly the same price as factory-overclocked ones. It's pricing is down from the $325 point it was hovering over.

The GTX 770 costs roughly the same as the GTX 760, for NVIDIA to sell, with the former only imposing slightly higher VRM requirements. Our tests show that the GTX 770 still ends up with better energy efficiency figures than the R9 285. Based on the 28 nm "GK104" silicon, the GTX 770 packs 1,536 CUDA cores, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, and a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/204863/nvidia-tweaking-geforce-gtx-770-price-to-compete-with-r9-285.html
 
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Bart_Hunt said:
I like that Sapphire 285 Compact Edition.
I think we will see it very often in mITX rigs.
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For a small card it packs in a lot of performance.

One of my Asus Matrix Platinum HD 7970s is huge in comparison yet there is very little difference in performance compared to the Sapphire 285 Compact Edition.
 
humbug said:
Good, force AMD to bring in its full fat SKU 285X, hopeful with a 384Bit bus and 3GB of Vram, and drop the price on them both.

A race to the floor in pricing :)
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Agreed and the hopefully the new 760 replacement, atm i feel both are waiting if possible for the other to release something so they can Tweak there response be it price or performance wise
 
Gibbo said:
I hope its true and they also protect customers inventory. But I seriously doubt it, GTX 770 is selling in its thousands, so why would 285 force their hand when 280 and 280X have being lowly priced for ages and 285 sales are not exactly effecting NVIDIA's share. So I have my doubts!
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When?
 
I don't know what all the fuss is about the card only having 2gb of vram, have the various benchmarks carried out so far shown the card being bottlencking by its memory?
 
Exactly so what's the point on adding another 2Gb of expensive video memory which will add what £30-£40 the price point? AMD have got the balance of this card right IMO, it's just not offering up the earth shattering value for money that we all crave.
 
Freddie1980 said:
Exactly so what's the point on adding another 2Gb of expensive video memory which will add what £30-£40 the price point? AMD have got the balance of this card right IMO, it's just not offering up the earth shattering value for money that we all crave.
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More to the point, it's not offering any progress since the 7950 came out 3 years ago.

Not only is the performance not an improvement, but the price/perf is no better than the cards it replaces - in fact worse.

AMD have done this twice now. When the 280X was released it was more exensive than the 7970 was at the time.

Now the 285 is out it's more expensive than the 280.

The point is that we aren't going forwards at the moment, with each "new" generation prices are being bumped up a little before continuing their gradual decline. And what you get for you money stays roughly the same.

Whereas ideally with each new gen you should get more for the same money.
 
For a mid range card I think the 285 is a quality item and it is the only card according to it's description that fully supports DX12.

The point is there is a need for mid range cards and neither NV or AMD can afford to stop making them just because they are no longer as fast as the new top of the range cards.

From what I have learnt about the 285 I would rather buy one than a GTX 770 or 280X as the new 285 is more future proofed with DX12 and better memory management.
 
FoxEye said:
More to the point, it's not offering any progress since the 7950 came out 3 years ago.

Not only is the performance not an improvement, but the price/perf is no better than the cards it replaces - in fact worse.

AMD have done this twice now. When the 280X was released it was more exensive than the 7970 was at the time.

Now the 285 is out it's more expensive than the 280.

The point is that we aren't going forwards at the moment, with each "new" generation prices are being bumped up a little before continuing their gradual decline. And what you get for you money stays roughly the same.

Whereas ideally with each new gen you should get more for the same money.
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To be fair this is simply a 280 replacement, in that is has features the 280 does not, like Free-Sync, True Audio, XDMA. In terms of performance at its slowest its as fast as a 280 while at its fastest its faster than a 280X, its a different architecture, a much better architecture with twice the Tessellation performance, and better memory management, hence the reason its faster than the 280X in some games.
 
Kaapstad said:
For a mid range card I think the 285 is a quality item and it is the only card according to it's description that fully supports DX12.

The point is there is a need for mid range cards and neither NV or AMD can afford to stop making them just because they are no longer as fast as the new top of the range cards.

From what I have learnt about the 285 I would rather buy one than a GTX 770 or 280X as the new 285 is more future proofed with DX12 and better memory management.
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I agree but despite the efficiency of the memory bandwidth, 2gb of ram is simply not enough.
When the 4gb version hits around £180 then the 285 will be a replacement for the 7950.
 
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