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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

I know you bought one so you would think that but the reality is neither feature on the steam hardware survey while the direct competition the 4070/4070S have a combined 4% and AMDs market share fell by nearly 50% over the past 2 years so I’d say no they weren’t price well at launch.

The price they’re at now should have been the launch price, it’s no good cutting the price once everyone has already bought Nvidia.

We have been through this so many time @Joxeon its exhausting.
 
It will have between 1 and 999,999,999 cores, have between 1MB and 999GB of RAM and cost from £0 to £GDP of the world.

Am I now a trusted hardware leaker?
 
Leakers, because as we know they're infallible with their info, despite getting specs wrong, release date wrong, name wrong etc etc etc.
If I'm honest, in the last maybe 5-8 years, leaks have been pretty accurate and correct for virtually everything.

The biggest difference between leaks no and say 20 years ago, we are a more connected world and info coming from some part of the world is much easier these days.

It is important to note that everyone favorite youtubers that test these things have basically holed themselves in testing the same way, just because someone tests something differently doesn't mean its incorrect.

Even the games being tested are meh a lot of the time, half of the testers benchmark CSGO but not other PC exclusives, so theres that too.
 
We have been through this so many time @Joxeon its exhausting.
We can pretend AMD is doing well but the sad truth is the last Radeon gpu to make a top 20 spot in the steam survey is the RX580.

I want AMD to do well as we badly need some competition in the GPU market but they can’t keep messing up the pricing every generation.
 
We can pretend AMD is doing well but the sad truth is the last Radeon gpu to make a top 20 spot in the steam survey is the RX580.

I want AMD to do well as we badly need some competition in the GPU market but they can’t keep messing up the pricing every generation.

If amd wants a top spot again, price the 9070XT at $299
 
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If I'm honest, in the last maybe 5-8 years, leaks have been pretty accurate and correct for virtually everything.

The biggest difference between leaks no and say 20 years ago, we are a more connected world and info coming from some part of the world is much easier these days.

Anyone can be "accurate and correct" if they change their info dozens of times over the months leading upto a release. And more often than not that's exactly what they do, come launch day or review embargo day they point to the latest info that was close or maybe correct, and the rest of the stuff they were nowhere near gets brushed under the carpet.

If you were to list the stuff they were totally wrong about vs the stuff that they got right, or close to right, the stuff they got wrong would be a lengthy list indeed.
 
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If amd wants a top spot again, price the 9070XT at $299
If performance sits between a 7900GRE and 7900XT but with better RT and upscaling then the 4070S has already been offering that option for around £500-550 and sometimes under £500 for the past year so I think anything over £400 will be DoA.
 
Theory is AMD botched their dual chip high performance design and instead put them chips to the 9070xt and then spin some bs about focusing on the mass market. No market disruption, the status quo it is and more market share loss.

 
Theory is AMD botched their dual chip high performance design and instead put them chips to the 9070xt and then spin some bs about focusing on the mass market. No market disruption, the status quo it is and more market share loss.


Sounds possible. But who really knows.

Were they not meant to have two GPU's on the same package though? Rather than two separate ones like the 295x2?

I have wanted them to get that and have the advantage over nvidia for a couple of generations now. But honestly I just lost all hope with AMD GPUs. If they ever do well it will be a surprise. I won't hold my breath however. Something just not right about the team over there. Certainly the marketing team anyway :cry:
 
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Theory is AMD botched their dual chip high performance design and instead put them chips to the 9070xt and then spin some bs about focusing on the mass market. No market disruption, the status quo it is and more market share loss.


Steve from hardware unboxed spoke about this two months ago while he was on the mlid podcast. Steve visited a trade show and there he says he spoke to some AMD guys, as well as other journalists and the mood was depressing and word going around was that AMD's experiments with chiplet gaming GPUs was a failure and didn't work out the way they expected, as a result RDNA4 was going to flop and they needed to pivot back to a monolithic GPu to salvage something from it


If I recall correctly, even rdna3 was a bit of flop, in absolute terms - simply because the 7900xtx that launched was nowhere near the initial predicted performance and depending on which rumours you assume are more accurate, the 7900xtx was meant to be 50% to 100% faster than what it launched with (and this was because the 7900XTX was meant to be a dual GPU chiplet card)

Based on statements from MLID, AMD would work towards correcting the issues and RDNA4 would be RDNA3+Fixes to deliver the original performance that was intended for the 7900XTX. As we've gotten closer to launch it became apparent that these "fixes" did not materialise and whatever was wrong could not be fixed.
 
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and there he says he spoke to some AMD guys
Think it was AiB's he spoke to during various dinners, and that RDNA4 had turning out quite disappointing and not to expect too much.

Also to note, took AMD about 14/15 months of driver updates to get RDNA3 anywhere near the slide numbers that they touted at launch so at least they got there in the end. AMD driver guy got a bonus that month :D
 
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Think it was AiB's he spoke to during various dinners, and that RDNA4 had turning out quite disappointing and not to expect too much.

Also to note, took AMD about 14/15 months of driver updates to get RDNA3 anywhere near the slide numbers that they touted at launch so at least they got there in the end. AMD driver guy got a bonus that month :D
Fine wine, launch disappointing and get it where it needs one day far in the future. :cool:
 
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