I'm not waiting for anything. Just amused by all the fake outrage going on with regards to Vega & AMD.
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I'm not waiting for anything. Just amused by all the fake outrage going on with regards to Vega & AMD.
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That was more to do with him wanting two of the new Titans for free so he could replace two of the older Pascal Titans they'd already given him for free for a build he was doing, He ended up getting them because he throws his toy's out the pram and start's doing video's to make whoever won't give him hardware look like the bad guy's. Titans are for gaming and Nvidia promote them as the ultimate gaming card. Someone else said this a few days ago and I posted links to Nvidia's promotional stuff showing that they do and have done since day one, even when the card still had it's floating point or whatever it is intact.
Someone has an FE and will be doing some benchmarks soon:
https://disqus.com/by/klaudiuszkaczmarzyk/comments/
https://disqus.com/by/klaudiuszkaczmarzyk/comments/
Hey guys, I have a good friend who works at AMD, he said that vega will be faster than a 1080ti, as for providing evidence, why should I have to, people believe any old **** they see on the internet that doesn't have any credible source/evidence to backup their claim 
If the card comes in at 1080 performance for <£400, I'll be happy as at least in the long run we will be getting some of AMD's finewine tuning
Better that than having a company who don't put the same effort into optimization once their new products launch and then years down the line, those cards look pitiful compared to their competitors....
Which cards of AMDs took "12 months" for them to match their nvidia equivalents?
If the card comes in at 1080 performance for <£400, I'll be happy as at least in the long run we will be getting some of AMD's finewine tuning
Better that than having a company who don't put the same effort into optimization once their new products launch and then years down the line, those cards look pitiful compared to their competitors....Which cards of AMDs took "12 months" for them to match their nvidia equivalents?
Found this comment on the videocardz article interesting:
Could be pure speculation like 90% of info on Vega. Just thought it seemed very specific.
Could be pure speculation like 90% of info on Vega. Just thought it seemed very specific.
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All people want is to finally be able to upgrade their 290x's 
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It's both, their press release to Anandtech and others constantly mentioned "Prosumer" as well, mentioned several times in their article based on the information NVIDIA gave them. I even linked to their own Deep Learning development page where they list the Xp for desktop use as their fastest card for deep neural network training. While they also market it as the flagship for gaming; and features the drivers for it.
Also I'd believe Jay in what they told him. Him blatantly lying about what NVIDIA told him would get him removed from the sampled list for future products; or just cut ties.
The card is a Prosumer card, it's sits in the middle of it all, while not excelling in the pro line. Just like the Frontier Edition. The difference with AMD is, they're refusing to show any game performance numbers; and like NVIDIA didn't sample consumer reviewers with the card.
It'll be interesting to see how it does in that area though; even with all this talk of the gaming drivers not being close to ready.
One test that doesn't care for drivers if 3D Mark. Whether it's Pro drivers, or Gaming; the result will be rather similar. So I hope someone with a Frontier Edition at least runs 3D Mark to see what the hardware can do.
As the Quadro M6000 and Titan X (Maxwell) pretty much scored the same.
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It'll be fine, I recently swapped out my 850 watt psu for a 650 watt psu ready for Vega.
It'll be fine, I recently swapped out my 850 watt psu for a 650 watt psu ready for Vega.
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!
Someone got their hands on a Frontier Edition, and we might get some gaming performance at 1080p. I wonder if Vega will suck at 1080p like the Fury line did.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6k0daw/dude_got_vega_fe_the_return/
Someone got their hands on a Frontier Edition, and we might get some gaming performance at 1080p. I wonder if Vega will suck at 1080p like the Fury line did.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6k0daw/dude_got_vega_fe_the_return/
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Since last year they've been stating H1 in interviews which were clearly focused on gaming Vega so now making out they didn't say Gaming is just rubbish.
Well in their Q1 earnings and Investor call they told the people on record "Vega products" are launching H1. Very broad terms :/
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This was just posted which confirms they did.
You're right, They said it several times.
This was just posted which confirms they did.
From the original locked thread "AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1"
Will launch "Vega" for the enthusiast market in 1H 2017
I'm pretty sure when Doom demo was shown they again said Vega H1.
This has been discussed before. Can we just accept that Vega Gaming / Enthusiast / RX is late........for whatever reason(s) that I'm sure will become apparent at a later date.
You're right, They said it several times.
It is interesting, possibly true, but no evidence.
What i irrefutable is this whole Vega Frontier Edition is absolutely the weirdest GPU launch in graphics card history. A card aimed at professionals but without certified professional drivers (perhaps because of the bug?) compared to a card that isn't supposed to be used for professional use. Zero official architecture details. No official reviews, just people having to go out and buy an FE card and bench themselves. Gaming Vega absolutely delayed regardless of what some people say. The most bizarre marketing video released since 3DFX. A water cooled verion that requires 75w mroe than an already power hungry 300w air cooled, despite the fact that water cooling usually reduced power consumption due to less electron leakage.
Yup, as mentioned Before AMD likely see Frontier Edition as their "Enthusiast" card, also part of their comparisons against the Titan Xp.
Really sucks for all consumers that just want a darn gaming card. Although that quote from Videocardz is also quite interesting. Might explain more of the delays along with drivers, and HBM2.
The thing that worries me is that I am buying a new computer when Threadripper comes out (it'll either be a Threadripper system or an Intel X299 system depending on which is better when we have full information on Threadripper) so the date of purchasing my system is already set so I need to make a choice as to what to buy in the next couple of months. If AMD don't have a 1080TI competitor I might be forced to buy another Nvidia GPU even though Vega might be a better fit for an AMD Threadripper system. I really want this system to last for 5 years (perhaps with 1 GPU upgrade in the middle) so I really want the best when I buy it.
But AMD have clearly stated it isn't a gaming card. For gaming wait for the RX.
Raja had this to say about it; and the card does have a "gaming mode" for it's drivers. It's not a pure gaming card no. It won't get optimised in games as much as Radeon RX Vega, but it will be able to use those drivers later.
Enthusiast =/= Gaming at least to AMD.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6bklro/we_are_radeon_technologies_group_at_amd_and_were/
Late July, early August for the launch. The release date is unknown at this stage. Hopefully it isn't like the 480 release - one month after the launch.
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