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No, AMD and Nvidia jut need to produce more cards so the supply is aufficient for gamers and miners. No reason to sop miners paying their fair share and increasing profits for AMD & NV to put back in to R&D.
Both AMD & NV werw taken by surprise but have been increasing production volumes. That is why the 1070 and 1080s etc. are back in supply with prices not overly inflated.
mining could be incredibly benefital to gamers in the future. If NVi and AMd can sell cards at massive prices for mining then they are incentivized to keep imporving performance and efficiency and can put more money into gaming products.
To help differentiate product lines the IHV can modify the gaming drivers to they limit performance for hashing.
Its definitely a better pick. Better efficiency and price-performance.
the problem is if you are on a FuryX it is not really an upgrade it is?
Soldato
So at current prices (~550 on OcUK) is the Vega 64 worth it? Or would I be better off going with the 1080, which at the moment is a fair bit cheaper. Or does Nvidia still have the performance issues with Ryzen CPUs...
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There fine i use to sell them all win 7 keys oem for me where from dismantled laptops pc's ect ..also you can still use a win 7 key on a win 10 install just use the win 10 MS install and insert the win 7 key
Soldato
Yea. Good point. Mining can be good for gamers as it makes AMD and Nvidia monies.
Soldato
Regarding HBCC..... it COULD come in handy at some point. People that like to run lots of mods and hit VRAM walls might benefit from it.
Assumedly though in that case you'd want a fairly beefy card anyhow and the top end ones currently come with a lot of VRAM and its likely 16+ GB cards aren't far off.
Unless mining workloads are gaming workloads are different.
And if 95% of your customers need workload A and 5% need workload B, and it's also much more profitable to make cards optimised for mining workloads...
Then who, AMD or nVidia, will give two craps about gamers and the kind of cards they need? You can quite easily see either/both companies just choosing to leave gaming behind. Go full compute for AI/ driverless cars/ mining. Bigger market and more profits. Who needs gamers?
So, it looks like it wasn't a total train wreck after all.
If it wasn't for Miners, prices would have been pretty reasonable too.
And I get it's 1080/1070 performance a year later, but, it's not like 1070/1080 performance is bad all of a sudden and People are still buying 1070 and 1080 cards.
Power consumption could be better, it's an area that AMD really need to work on.
So they are decent cards, not going to win any benchmark awards but not going to disappoint anybody that buys them either.
And like the last few card releases from AMD, there will be some driver improvements. While these improvements have taken a long time to come in the past, they have been getting much better lately. Polaris improvements were seen within a few months.
Vega 56 looks like a very good card, if you can get it a price not effected by the mining craze.
If it wasn't for Miners, prices would have been pretty reasonable too.
And I get it's 1080/1070 performance a year later, but, it's not like 1070/1080 performance is bad all of a sudden and People are still buying 1070 and 1080 cards.
Power consumption could be better, it's an area that AMD really need to work on.
So they are decent cards, not going to win any benchmark awards but not going to disappoint anybody that buys them either.
And like the last few card releases from AMD, there will be some driver improvements. While these improvements have taken a long time to come in the past, they have been getting much better lately. Polaris improvements were seen within a few months.
Vega 56 looks like a very good card, if you can get it a price not effected by the mining craze.
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Especially as new coins appear to be created all the time, mining may not just be a craze and be here to stay long term. Lets face it, both AMD and NVIDIA are business that care about cash first and foremost.
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Its a disaster if you are running at 4K, combined with the price its a complete and utter wreck.
Maybe AMD built it for miners its only FreeSync gamers that will buy into this.
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I was pleasantly surprised by the v64 aio only being £640** with the 2 games, I haven't bought either game yet so I can call that another 50 quid off.
**It's now gone up 60 quid for pre-orders which is a shame.
Soldato
I have very average cooling and an old psu so a more efficient pascal card made sense.
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Maybe they should start naming the architectures after coal mines
Nvidia was selling GP104 chips at GM200 prices before ETH mining became so popular.
Now AMD are selling GP104 performance at GM200 prices.
They both need to cop on, a GTX460's GF104 which is a bigger chip than a 1080's GP104 sold for $200.
Call it a 1060, slap on a $300 price tag and we have a deal (figuratively speaking, because I don't ever want an Nvidia product in any of my electronics again)
AMD messing about with pointlessly expensive technologies that don't deliver on performance and falling behind on efficiency boosting rendering techniques is not the customers problem.
$500 of your best GPU please sir, that is the ideal target for both companies but in reality they are just insulting customers with an overachieving and vastly overpriced Nvidia GPU vs an underachieving and overpriced AMD GPU.
Rant over because you'll still see Vega in my signature if prices drop enough or really special deals happen in the next year.
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Well I missed out..... have to wait till September apparently. Pretty gutted really 
For a card that most are slating, they seem to be selling pretty well......
For a card that most are slating, they seem to be selling pretty well......
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