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Yup. There's no guarantee that mining will go away this year, next year, this decade or never...But at least gamers could buy em even if the stock was low... I can see mining becoming a real big problem in the future, we might only be experiencing the beginning of the mining s**tstorm.
Anyone that really wanted one of those limited edition cards for their rig will be fugged lol...
Agreed. Nvidia is already in heavy competition in deep learning with dedicated hardware offering much more performance per watt.I suspect the future of computing is more specific hardware for more specific purposes, rather than things with a large amount of generality. Much like Google's Tensor cores.
Although I assume MCM designs will have to be completely mainstream first, otherwise this approach would likely be far too expensive. As you'd need to design so many different chips, each of several sizes too.
Yup. There's no guarantee that mining will go away this year, next year, this decade or never...
I'm feeling really pessimistic about PC gaming going forwards. It will jsut be the domain of people who can afford to spend £1000s every year.
Did the Fiji Nano not match or exceed the R9 Fury in performance and even match the fury X in a lot of scenarios? All of this whilst having a lower TDP. Vega nano should be the same story, I'd expect it to be the full Vega 64 just with more aggressive undervolting and clocking to hit the optimal curve for perf/Watt.
ASIC became about Chinese factories being able to manufacture designs faster and more cheaply then anyone else. The equipment and the use of ASIC becomes centralised to China [also some of the cheapest power in the world available]. Thats kind of ok in a way because China moving value to dollars is a large part of bitcoin and why its valued. However having all the mining centred around ASIC production is also a possible negative, its supposed to be a global currency equally accessible by all.Did they do that because ASIC algos lowered the buy in price for mining currencies, meaning more miners would bring down the value of the currency ? Don't know much about mining, but i'm interested in why they would have done that, must be some logical reason
Free markets tend towards efficiency. ASIC cuts out the waste in btc process. ETH has found some purpose in a different direction but likely they wont continue with a more expensive transaction process then they have to.I can see mining becoming a real big problem in the future, we might only be experiencing the beginning of the mining ****storm
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Do that if you want. I was replying to someone saying the cards are going to be sold out because of mining, as if they were better than what's already available for less.And what if you get card for gaming and when not gaming you are mining ??
Oh yeah no I understood what you meant, there will always be those who won't change brand (maybe one day) because Intel is all they ever heard for the past decade.
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And consequently the graphics quality of games will stagnate if it lasts for years and nobody can afford the new cards, and no one finds a solution to this "problem", not really any point making nicer games if nobody can buy the more advanced cards... On the upside they will have to concentrate more on the gameplay and the story line.
Have you not been paying attention for the last 5 years? Graphics have stagnated, you can thank consoles for it. This is the reason why 4-5 year old GPUs can still push mostly high settings - the only reason most of /us/ (the enthusiasts) are upgrading is because we're not doing 1080p60 anymore, we're pushing higher resolutions and higher refresh rates - which is "artificially" increasing the power demand, by this I mean the games haven't really changed it's /us/ who are forcing the change.
Does make you wonder how much performance is in products, nvidia drop a driver with x3 performance for a titan for whatever program it wasHave you not been paying attention for the last 5 years? Graphics have stagnated, you can thank consoles for it. This is the reason why 4-5 year old GPUs can still push mostly high settings - the only reason most of /us/ (the enthusiasts) are upgrading is because we're not doing 1080p60 anymore, we're pushing higher resolutions and higher refresh rates - which is "artificially" increasing the power demand, by this I mean the games haven't really changed it's /us/ who are forcing the change.
That was just Nvidia disabling that feature/performance on the card to protect their 'pro' card sales. AMD forced their hand to enable features the disabled.Does make you wonder how much performance is in products, nvidia drop a driver with x3 performance for a titan for whatever program it was
Does make you wonder how much performance is in products, nvidia drop a driver with x3 performance for a titan for whatever program it was