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Tom84 said:
Ah West Ham and Macedonia, you know you have a player on your hands when they excell against that level of opposition
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Being outstanding against teams like that is far better than being average at best against teams of similar quality, like most (well, all) of England's players on Tuesday for instance.
Have you seen how good he's been recently? Does it still hurt you that he didn't want to play for Man. U.? Who cares?
 
JohnnyG said:
Being outstanding against teams like that is far better than being average at best against teams of similar quality, like most (well, all) of England's players on Tuesday for instance.
Have you seen how good he's been recently? Does it still hurt you that he didn't want to play for Man. U.? Who cares?
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I tend to agree that Hazard is in amazing form at the moment. Definitely one to watch whether you like him or not!
 
JohnnyG said:
Being outstanding against teams like that is far better than being average at best against teams of similar quality, like most (well, all) of England's players on Tuesday for instance.
Have you seen how good he's been recently? Does it still hurt you that he didn't want to play for Man. U.? Who cares?
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Miaow!

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JohnnyG said:
Being outstanding against teams like that is far better than being average at best against teams of similar quality, like most (well, all) of England's players on Tuesday for instance.
Have you seen how good he's been recently? Does it still hurt you that he didn't want to play for Man. U.? Who cares?
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No more than it hurts you that he's only at Chelsea because they're the only ones stupid enough to give his agent £6m
 
Yas786 said:
And on another note, Arsenal are to sell Gervinho to Galatasaray for £12mill then make a move for Reina lol....absolute codswallop that is, god knows where these journalists get their stories from. I cant see why we would make a move for Reina:confused:
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The Mail have said we're selling Arshavin as well, impressive feat selling a player who is out of contract... :D

As for Reina I think the whole thing is utterly retarded, he's a terrible keeper, nothing like the quality player that he used to be and while I think we need an experienced keeper to play for a few seasons alongside Szczesny I don't think they should be worse than Szczesny otherwise it kinda defeats the point. The link between him and us has been talked about for ages now, it started when we had that goalkeeper crisis a while back and has just continued on despite the fact that Szczesny has been the clear number one for a while now.

I haven't really got much to say about Diaby, not particularly fantastic when fit, never fit anyway. He has one or two good performances per season before scrounging tens of thousands of pounds per week to basically sit on a physio table. Arsene feels sorry for him though so I guess it's okay to waste all that money on him for nothing in return, after all it isn't his fault he's never fit. Right? :p
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
I haven't really got much to say about Diaby, not particularly fantastic when fit, never fit anyway. He has one or two good performances per season before scrounging tens of thousands of pounds per week to basically sit on a physio table. Arsene feels sorry for him though so I guess it's okay to waste all that money on him for nothing in return, after all it isn't his fault he's never fit. Right? :p
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Its difficult to believe he has this many injuries without, well, trying something different, him, medical staff. If his injuries are overtraining, train less, if they are poor stretching or something, try something different, take up yoga, or stop doing yoga, stop drinking or doing something else.

Meh, basically with the number of players, particularly in the EPL, who tend to disappear through mysterious injuries that never heal, or just crap performances meaning they drop out of the team, then turn up for a month or two towards the end of their contract, miraculously improve(fitness or form), sucker a manager to give them a new contract, then become crap/injured again for years....

In Diaby's case, getting 60k a week, injured or not, gives him no incentive to be fit at all, he doesn't have the pressure or winning/losing games, being responsible for the poor performances, training that hard, or even going in to work that often, but still gets paid.

He could genuinely be injured though and it could be Arsenal's fault, the thing is how injured he is and how average when he plays, he should be on 10k a week absolute max, with an appearance bonus, if he declines, so what, not losing anything. My issue with Wenger is the stupidity of giving him, Rosicky, and well, several other guys new, big contracts when their performances/injury don't merit it.
 
I'm trying to remember where I read the article but there were direct quotes from Arsene saying all of these injuries are a byproduct of the Dan Smith tackle, that he can't just give up on Diaby because it isn't his fault he's had his leg broken. A commendable attitude if we weren't totally spunking 60K a week up the wall. At least in the summer we have some scroungers out of contract, I'll be sad to see Arshavin go as I've always liked him, thought he was played out of position on the left, or at least I've never felt that's his best position, I'd play him between the midfield and forwards. At least we'll be finally getting rid of utter dross like Squillaci, Denilson probably Chamakh and I'd guess Bendtner will be going somewhere as well, I'm imagining he won't be staying on after his loan at Juventus finishes. If Sagna leaves too that'll be a nice little spring clean.
 
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K1LLSW1TCH said:
I'm trying to remember where I read the article but there were direct quotes from Arsene saying all of these injuries are a byproduct of the Dan Smith tackle
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Might be some truth to that if Arsenal didnt have players that are constently on the treatment table. Take Wilshire for example, once again out with a niggling injury.

Something wrong with the Arsenal medical team, and has been for ages.
 
So Fay Van Persie hasn't been injured at United all season I think? If he was still at the Emirates he'd probably have been on the treatment table at least once!
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
I'm trying to remember where I read the article but there were direct quotes from Arsene saying all of these injuries are a byproduct of the Dan Smith tackle, that he can't just give up on Diaby because it isn't his fault he's had his leg broken. A commendable attitude if we weren't totally spunking 60K a week up the wall. At least in the summer we have some scroungers out of contract, I'll be sad to see Arshavin go as I've always liked him, thought he was played out of position on the left, or at least I've never felt that's his best position, I'd play him between the midfield and forwards. At least we'll be finally getting rid of utter dross like Squillaci, Denilson probably Chamakh and I'd guess Bendtner will be going somewhere as well, I'm imagining he won't be staying on after his loan at Juventus finishes. If Sagna leaves too that'll be a nice little spring clean.
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Unfortunately its the replacements I fear, guys who cost more, are on even higher wages, and still completely crap :p

Bendtner, Juve didn't work out for him in the slightest, Wenger wasn't using him preseason, though Bendtner was happy with that looking for a club, I've heard rumblings he was looking for a move and Wenger was douchey about the price(as he has been with other players) so ended up moving very late, had no preseason and thats never good. Particularly when you go to a top club and can't even be close to match fitness till 2 months into the season, then other players were established form, he had no form and then got an injury ending his season. If he's got any contract left at Arsenal(really not sure if he's got another year left) I think we might see him at with us for a year. A good year on loan leaves you with people looking to sign you, a bad year and no one is interested.


On Diaby, meh, the thing that REALLY irks me is the tackle that happened to Diaby, he's done on other people, he really quite often for a couple years caught people late and being leggy and weird, it was often through guys ankles, which pretty much for me meant I lost all sympathy I had for the guy, most people on the receiving end of a dreadful tackle go out of their way to not do that to others.

I also believe its too much of an excuse to keep blaming that tackle, you can to a degree say I can believe his problems started then purely because Wenger does the bad injury>early return>played first team till injured>bad injury, loop.

Look at Wilshire, Wenger says "he's not tired yet, I'll rest him when he's tired", loses Wilshire again, he has zero idea how to rotate or protect players, I still get SO angry about Cesc, injury trouble all year, needlessly played after losing him for 2-3 weeks every game till he's injured again, then insisting on playing him against Stoke the game before the final.
 
oh ffs, seriously, the only news in the past 2 days has been Wilshire and Diaby injuries.... was it a Liverpool thread on the day that Suarez's punch was the only thing to talk about? is the entire last 30 pages Arsenal only? Then what the heck is the problem?

Slow news week, tomorrow we'll all laugh at Sunderland, call Utd the champions, by 5pm we'll probably be laughing at Arsenal for losing an easy game to a hopeless team and watch Spurs win a flukey game taking them 7 points clear of us, then by Sunday afternoon we'll all be laughing at Liverpool and condemning Suarez for several days over whatever he does this weekend, he'll probably kill a child or something.
 
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