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Founders Edition

Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super review: Boosted clocks and core counts for the same $599 as the vanilla 4070

Nvidia's mid-cycle 'Super' refresh kicks off with a bang.

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super Founders Edition Review

The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super launches today, boasting a solid increase in GPU cores, ROP units and cache. This enhancement brings its performance much closer to that of the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, at a price point of $600 that signals strong competition for AMD's Radeon RX 7800 XT.

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Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super Founders Edition review: kicking RTX 3090 to the curb | Club386

Improved specifications and a sexy new look at the same $599 price tag. Find out if Nvidia's refreshed RTX 4070 Super is worth your money.

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Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super im Test

Nvidia aktualisiert die RTX-4000-Grafikkarten: Die GeForce RTX 4070 Super bleibt bei 12 GB, legt im Test zur RTX 4070 aber deutlich zu.

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Nvidia RTX 4070 Super Founders Edition Graphics Card Review

The Nvidia RTX 4070 proved to be quite a potent graphics card, and while it may have been in the shadow of the mighty RTX 4080 and 4090 graphics cards, it proved more than powerful enough for extreme…

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GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER (founder edition) review

The GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER (12GB) is released today, we have planned multiple reviews including our founder edition card. Targeted at ray tracing, DLSS, and AI-powered assists, the GeForce RTX 4070 SIUPER offers quite a bit of performance for 599 USD.

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Nvidia RTX 4070 Super Review - KitGuru

Hot on the heels of its announcement at CES 2024, today we can present our review of Nvidia's RTX 40

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Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super FE Review

Nvidia has given gamers a value for money boost with their RTX 4070 SUPER

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super Founders Edition Review - PC Perspective

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super Founders Edition Review RTX SUPER cards are back after skipping a generation, and we have a Founders Edition of the new GeForce

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RTX 4070 Super im PCGH-Test: Hat AMDs Radeon RX 7800 XT ausgedient? [Update: Verfügbarkeit]

Nvidias Geforce RTX 4070 Super ist ab dem 17. Januar erhältlich. PCGH prüft im XXL-Test die Leistung, den Verbrauch und das Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis.

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Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super Review

Nvidia's GeForce RTX 4070 Super is the first refreshed 'Super' GPU to be released. Based on specs, it should be ~20% faster than the 4070, at the...

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Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super review: more frames for less money

Nvidia's RTX 4070 Super gets the full Digital Foundry review treatment, looking at performance, power efficiency, RT, u…

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Asus

ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super Dual Review

The ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super Dual is sold at NVIDIA MSRP of $600. You still get a greatly improved triple-slot cooler with a dual BIOS feature. Testing in our review confirms that the noise levels with the quiet BIOS are whisper quiet and temperatures are still good.

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ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER DUAL review

The GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER DUAL (12GB) is released today, you've probably already read our founder edition card review carrying that MSRP of $599, but there are more MRSP products available that are not based on the founder edition design, meet the Palit DUAL version.

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Gainward

Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 Super Ghost Review

The Gainward RTX 4070 Super Ghost comes with no additional cost beyond the $600 base MSRP, making it an appealing option for budget-conscious gamers. Featuring a compact dual-slot cooler, it offers a space-efficient design. However, it's important to note that temperatures and noise levels are...

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Gigabyte

Palit

Palit GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER DUAL review

The GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER DUAL (12GB) is released today, you've probably already read our founder edition card review carrying that MSRP of $599, but there are more MRSP products available that are not based on the founder edition design, meet the Palit DUAL version.

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PNY

PNY GeForce RTX 4070 Super Verto Review

The PNY GeForce RTX 4070 Super Verto boasts a compact dual-slot configuration, ensuring compatibility with all cases and efficient operation even with a less powerful power supply. However, the design does have its downsides, particularly in terms of temperatures and noise levels.

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Zotac

Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Super Trinity Review

The Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Super Trinity features a modest factory overclock and a significantly enhanced cooler compared to many MSRP-priced cards. Moreover, its exceptional fan settings deliver a whisper-quiet gaming experience, even during heavy loads.

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GeForce RTX 4070 Super Review: NVIDIA Delivers More Performance And Value

The new GeForce RTX 4070 Super offers nearly the same performance as NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4070 Ti but for hundreds less.

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Group test

ASUS, INNO3D und NVIDIA: Die GeForce RTX 4070 Super im Test - Hardwareluxx

ASUS, INNO3D und NVIDIA: Die GeForce RTX 4070 Super im Test.

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Video reviews

Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super Review - Finally Good Value?

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super Review & Benchmarks vs. RTX 4070, RX 7800 XT, & More

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Nvidia Should have done this already Last Year! RTX 4070 Super Review

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NVidia's RTX 4070 Super... The K.O to AMD?

Let's compare the RTX 4070 Super vs RTX 4070 and the RX 7800 XT in a 1080p and 1440p benchmark showdown.see prices hereRTX 4070 Super https://amzn.to/3vyDHd7...

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The RTX 4070 Super Review - Things are FINALLY looking Up!

The RTX 4070 Super is being launched at a price that replaces the current RTX 4070 but is this new Super GPU able to compete against the RX 7800 XT and even ...

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4070 Super Benchmarks! NVIDIA vs AMD...

The 4070 Super is the first of 3 new cards launching from NVIDIA this month, so let's see how it stacks compared to the competition. Check out the Torque lin...

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RTX 4070 vs RTX 4070 Super- The Ultimate Comparison!!!

This RTX 4070 Super review focuses on a detailed comparison vs its closest price competitor- Nvidia's own RTX 4070, which used to share the $599 MSRP, but ha...

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I am surprised in rasterised the RX7800XT is within 10% of the RTX4070 Super at qHD. I thought it would be more ahead!

Although the RTX4070 Super FE cooler does look great.

 

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Or am I hitting that copium too hard?

Yes. Inflation in the UK has zero impact on inflation in Asia where these cards are made.

Also the £350~£400 RTX3060TI was made during a Pandemic where costs of parts could be a few times what they are now. China was in lockdown. Freight cost a lot of money,etc.GDDR6/GDDR6X was a few times more expensive than it is now. Also,the RTX4070 uses a much smaller die(and so does the RTX4070TI). Basically the RTX4070TI has a similar die size and memory controller to an RTX3060!

Plus on top of this the RTX3060TI to RTX4070 performance jump is around the same as the RTX2060 Super to RTX3060TI jump,and less than the GTX970 to GTX1070. It is also not massively higher than the GTX1070 to RTX2060 Super jump.

Basically 40% to 50% performance jumps per generation at the £300~£400 mark have been standard for years.The RTX4070 is a £350~£400 class card at best like the RX7800XT,because at best they are an RTX4060TI and RX7700XT.

Except as usual hardware enthusiasts and gamers just have to use convoluted logic to make sense of all of it. The reality is Nvidia/AMD are having a Gentlemen's agreement to push prices as high as possible. It's like some weird Stockholm Syndrome gamers have and it is the main reason they try these tricks. Its the same with gamers moaning at EA,etc and yet these companies rake in billions despite dodgy practices.

It is increasingly obvious that large corporations have identified gamers as the easiest Whales to take advantage off.

Who needs marketing when gamers justify any sort of price rise? You already have admitted instead of paying £370 for an RTX3060TI replacement you will pay nearly £600,because the RTX4060TI is POS. So next generation you can pay £800 for the card that gives 50% over an RTX4070 Super.

Maybe Big Oil needs to get some of that marketing in - then people would be happy to pay lots for gas,petrol,etc.

 

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The purchasing power of £650 in todays money is not the same as 3.5 years ago.

Inflation in the UK has zero effect on the countries where these products are made,which are usually in Asia. The RTX3000/RX6000 were launched nearly 9 months into a Global Pandemic.

Their RRPs took into account sky high GDDR6/GDDR6X pricing,high shipping prices,labour shortages due to lockdowns,high subcomponent prices due to factory shutdowns,etc.

Most of these factors are not present now with things such as VRAM dropping massively in price. Lots of other products which had issues during the Pandemic,now have much more availability and lower prices. The only thing that might have gone up is the cost of cutting edge TSMC wafers,but Nvidia is using the equivalent of an RTX3060 chip in the RTX4070TI.

In the end the price increases have zero to do with costs and all to do with greed. The last time we had a sudden jump in price or a stagnation was Turing V1 which happened right after a Mining Boom. Gamers brought this on themselves. Many paid beyond the odds during the Pandemic and Miners did the rest. Nvidia and AMD got used to the high prices. Just like in 2018.

They have made every card under £500 utter trash,to force people to spend over £500. JHH apparently said he wanted a dGPU to cost the same as a whole console.

The reality is Gamers just cave in. You see it with all the moaning about EA,Activision-Blizzard,etc doing rubbish things but they make tons of money. Nvidia/AMD know Gamers don't have much willpower so they just need to hold their ground and do the minimum and they get a nice pay day.

I agree in the main but on the console front, prices probably won't be pushed as the main profit is in software sales and peripheral's hence why they used to sell the consoles at a loss. I can see a ps5 Pro being £500 to £550 but not much more as that's probably not going to suit there market. PC gamers were always willing to pay a lot of money from day one in comparison and manufacturers of gpu's don't have the fallback of making money from games and Peripheral's.

Sony was breaking even on the PS5 in 2021:

Sony Confirms PS5 Disc Edition Breaks Even, PS4 Sales Now Total 116.4 Million Units - PlayStation LifeStyle

Sony has confirmed the PS5 Disc Edition has broken even. Overall PS5 sales have totalled 10.1 million while PS4 sales now total 116.4 million units.

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Yes,2021 when TSMC 7NM was a cutting edge node and GDDR6 memory and NAND prices were high.

PC Gamers are getting mugged by Nvidia/AMD with dGPU pricing.

The RTX2060 to RTX4060 performance jump was only 50% over three generations after four and a half years:

https://tpucdn.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4060-gaming-x/images/relative-performance-1920-1080.png

The jump from the RX5600XT to the RX7600 was around the same.

 

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In my book every $600 card and under means you are better off buying a console now, they are just not worth it especially if you need to build a new build, if just a drop in upgrade then you really need to look at 7800xt/4070 and up if you really need a pc gaming machine and a use for a computer apart from just gaming. If just gaming and you don't own many pc games then consoles are looking really good now in this "new world" Nvidia/AMD has left us in for dGPUs.

You saw my calculations? The RTX4060/RX7600 are barely 50% faster overall than the RTX2060/RX5600XT after 4.5 years and 3 generations. These will be the most popular cards of each company as time progresses.

Nvidia/AMD are holding back PC Gaming now because of their greed.

It's reached the point where you wouldn't recommend PC gaming to anyone with less than 2-3 grand to spend on a rig. At least a grand of that on the GPU!

I can't see myself upgrading what I've got today. 3060 Ti (which was already overpriced) and a 5600x. That will have to do, simply put. Aint no way I'm giving them a single cent in this market. Of course they don't care, but increasingly neither do I. It's not like I game as much as I used to, anyhow.

Plenty of other hobbies to spend money on too. Honestly it's embarrassing we get trash like the RTX4060TI/RTX4060TI.

This is worse then Apple.No wonder when Apple makes less margins than Nvidia. Yet lots of PCMR mock Apple. And it also means AMD/Intel also try a fast one.

 

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His videos aren't as brand/PR orinetated i.e. HUB stand, DF, gamer nexus and so on stand out more because of how they sell themselves and their style of content, not to mention, those big channels have been around for how long? IIRC, DO only started 2-3 years back?

I'm not a huge fan of DO as he does waffle on but you can't dismiss his findings/content just because he doesn't have millions of subs..... Also, some of the things that he showed in that video would not translate well in a written article e.g. the way nvidia gpu with same vram handled vram bottleneck situations more gracefully than the equivalent amd gpu with the same vram. Also, DF and the other big tech press have often referenced to his videos to further back up the conclusions they have come to, which reinforces the part that he isn't just small time randomer.

I find his videos useful because he covers things other channels don't cover. But as usual it's best to use different sources of information to get a better impression overall.

 

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Its not bad, its a 3070Ti equivalent in price while 35% faster.

I still think the 7800XT is better value, sadly i think AMD know this which is why it didn't get a price drop

The only issue is the RTX3070TI was a con too. Nvidia clearly didn't want to sell the RTX3070 at £470 so the Ampere V2 versions jacked up pricing.

Its quite clear Nvidia and AMD are having an unofficial agreement of sorts. Nvidia "dropped" the RTX4070 to $550,which still makes it more expensive than the RX7800XT RRP. Yet,that is already the street price of the RTX4070.

The only card AMD is dropping the price of its the RX7900XT because of the RTX4070TI Super.

 

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There is this for £420, but despite my being a fan of Gigabyte motherboards i'm not a fan of their GPU's, they are the noisiest of the more premium cards due to those fans being the same design as the ones i had on my GTX 970, while that was ok for the time these days they don't really cut it, the fans on my 2020 MSI card are very much quieter.

The PCIe retention tab is also flimsy, Northwest Repair said it looks deliberate to him, it looks like quite a lot of the material has been cut-out to make it weak with a bunch of traces running through that tab area, a couple of years of heat cycling and the weight of the GPU hanging off the PCIe causes the PCB to crack, he's had no end of Gigabyte cards for repair all with cracked PCB's around the tab.

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I think the RX7700XT might have to drop a bit more in price,as it's priced high relative to the RX7800XT. If it can drop under £400 it would be a solid if not uninspiring choice under £400. Also would still be quicker than the RTX4060TI.