The end of mainstream Sci-Fi

Oh noes the sky is falling!!!

Wtf are you on? end of mainstream Sci-Fi, lol.

OK, tell me what is left running and what series are on the horizon (I know about the BSG spin offs) ?

Stargate is gone, although Universe will make an appearence.
BSG is gone.
No Trek.
No series like B5 or Farscape, hell even Andromeda is gone.

We currently have Terminator (which is about to be canned), Fringe (which will no doubt be canned), lost (which has one and a half series left to run) and what else ? What space based Sci-Fi do we have left ?

Perhaps you would like to enlighten me as to why you feel the Sci-Fi genre on TV is still so very healthy ...
 
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Have to hope that the new Star trek film does very well and maybe a new Startrek tv series could maybe appear from it there was talk about that on the startrek forums/imdb a while ago.

I do hope so, it would be good to see Star Trek back :)
 
We have SGU, BSg spinoff's x2 as you already mentioned.

SciFi isn't just space based either...

Currently we have:

Dollhouse, Chuck, Fringe, Sanctuary, Smallville, Heroes off the top of my head. Knightrider coming, have heard rumours of a Buck Rodgers remake and a possible new Trek too.

And for the record I never said it was healthy, what I said was that it was not the end of mainstream SciFi as you stated, which is clearly a comment with absolutely no grounds in reality so before you go getting upitty with me consider what you post next time.

LOL, Dollhouse isn't showing in the UK yet (and has bad ratings in the US by all accounts), Fringe will be canned, Sanctuary is hardly mainstream and will be canned, Chuck i have never watched so can't comment, Smallville has around 1 series left , I'll give you Heroes and the rest are rumours ... It'll be interesting to see if the 2 BSG spin offs make it past the pilot episodes, the same with Stargate Universe.

Where is the epic Sci-Fi .... What is currently running at the moment ... ?

You know exactly what I mean with regards to this, a few years ago we had several Trek series, B5, Stargate, Farscape, B5, Space Above and Beyond, Andromeda. Threre are currently no space based Sci-Fi series, there are one or two X-Files rip offs such as Fringe and Sanctuary. We are nowhere near the high that Sci-Fi had 5 or so years ago.
 
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If you can't stick to one definition of what you wish to discuss then there isn't anything to discuss, first it was mainstream, then it was space based, then it's what is available in the UK and now it's epic..

I give up, obviously no-one gets my definition of mainstream. You have Sci-Fi fans that will watch anything Sci-Fi related (myself included), and those that will watch the "big" TV Sci-Fi shows such as BSG, Stargate, Lost etc. There are not many of these "Big" shows left and precious few on the horizon. This thread wasn't meant to be an argument over Sci-Fi future or past, but rather a celebration of all the great Sci-Fi that has been shown.

If you honestly feel Sci-Fi is in as good a shape as it was 5 - 10 years ago then fair enough :) Im not going to argue any more.
 
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I actually agree with yer melchy. There's f'all space-based stuff about and no sign of it either. I think the newer Star Wars films maybe made people interested in the genre again in the last ten years, but things are listing a bit now.

Hopefully the new Trek will prompt a new series or something. Just feels weird without a major Trek IP circulating these days.

I really hold out hope for a new Trek series. I doubt that there will be anymore B5, the last DVD release didn't do all that well. I also hope Stargate : Universe does well.
 
Sci-Fi series cost small fortune in rendering and costumes. Even if they look bad. Currently all TV stations are trying to pull all series that cost money, regardless of whether it's in postproduction or known faces. Unless something syndicates all over the world to the tune of Lost or Heroes, there are just no companies that will take a risk on doing series for few million bucks, let alone episodes for million bucks. And it's not just sci-fi - costume dramas and anything that requires location outside Canada will be gone to. Even if by "costume" they mean few flare trousers and jackets with potato bag pockets like in Life On Mars.

They know they can do half wit, unresearched, written on a napkin in 5 minutes series about "some dude helping pretty policeman/woman solve crime, preferably using unorthodox method" (Listener/Lie To Me/Mentalist/Medium/Castle/Psych), undefinitely multiply law dramas (Law&Order:London all the way down to Law And Order:Little Creek if neccessary) or crime investigators (Bones/NCIS/CSI:LV/CSI:Miami/CSI:NY). If we tried to watch something not crime related and not a cheap, studio shot commedy you could only end up with one of self multiplying hospital dramas (Greys Anathomy/Private Practice/ER or House).

For the next two years there will be no risky ventures, no off the wall ideas, no themes outside connon of family sitcom/lawyer stuff/hospital drama/crime. No money splashing, you'll see less of expensive actors in the same series, less known faces around, more canadian actors and writers making their way across to prime time on main stations.

Credit crunch caused credits crunch

That is exactly what I was getting at :)

Even in the old days an episode of B5 was done for much less than half an episode of ST:TNG.

The only series of this type that I currently enjoy is "Bones".
 
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Yeah and you could tell. :p

Thats not fair :D

B5 was using CGI (Amiga's in the early days, one of the first TV series anywhere) and ST:TNG was still using models which was much more expensive at the time. B5 was cutting edge because it was one of the first ever series that used GCI. Foundation Imaging went on to do the CGI in Star Trek Voyager :) I still say that some of the effect in B5 are brilliant for the timescale :)
 
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