Soldato
Won't caving into this and opening the borders of the EU countries just encourage more people to make the journey & more people smugglers, resulting in more deaths?
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Of course it will.
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Yep. People keep saying let them in as if that will be it, problem solved.
All that will happen is more and more will come.
Why aren't other Arab states doing more to help?
Refugees welcomed by:
Saudi... 0
Kuwait... 0
Qatar... 0
Emirates... 0
Bahrain... 0
You have not seen me post these things you complete and utter liar, prove it. prove it right now
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No on said the baby was fake. If you read what i said you would know that, instead of reacting on emotions. We are talking about international issues here not your local soap opera bbc drama. 1000s of people have died and the media focuses on one boy. What i said was that they staged the photo by putting the dead boy face down in the sand after he was already picked up and being carried. Based on the other photos he was already in the arms of the guy who was carrying when the photographer was like "put him down on the floor" then they put him down and took a dramatic photo in the sand. The jewish media is obviously trying to use these emotional stories to convince people outside of isreal to welcome immigrants.
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I actually take the view that the UK should accept some of the migrants but, the UN convention states that refugees must claim asylum in THE FIRST SAFE COUNTRY in which the find themselves.
Ergo, all asylum seekers in Calais should be sent back to France, Italy or some other Country in the South of Europe. Technically, Turkey is a safe country!
I don't mind accepting son refugees as it is only humane and right, but they must be vetted thoroughly and be funded from foreign aid for their necessities here.
Now the biggest issue is, why are Saudi Arabia not accepting refugees? Why are other ultra oil rich nations not accepting refugees? It is probably the most potent question to hit those who are saying we should accept any and all... Lets not forget that there is a very rich nation on the Syrian doorstep who could accept these families but instead they traverse many thousands of miles.
Saudi Arabia should be forced to accept the bulk of these hundreds of thousands
Ergo, all asylum seekers in Calais should be sent back to France, Italy or some other Country in the South of Europe. Technically, Turkey is a safe country!
I don't mind accepting son refugees as it is only humane and right, but they must be vetted thoroughly and be funded from foreign aid for their necessities here.
Now the biggest issue is, why are Saudi Arabia not accepting refugees? Why are other ultra oil rich nations not accepting refugees? It is probably the most potent question to hit those who are saying we should accept any and all... Lets not forget that there is a very rich nation on the Syrian doorstep who could accept these families but instead they traverse many thousands of miles.
Saudi Arabia should be forced to accept the bulk of these hundreds of thousands
Haven't been following this thread but saw this last post and thought, "challenge accepted"
Then I realised I was too lazy the read through all the posts, but did find this one about travellers (who presumably are EU migrants too) in a brief search.
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I suggest you would need more than a couple of Hercules to do the job.
What happens if their husband/father gets killed in the conflict or just jettisons the family, would "we" then try to repatriate the women and kids? No I don't think so.
I'd also suggest that once they got here they would do everything in their power to stay. Have a child in UK etc. Imagine all the furore when we tried to send them back? All the do-gooders would be up in arms stating that their kids were now in school, any minor ailment would be escalated into a life threatening illness etc.
Cameron should, and probably does,realise that he was voted into power by people like me who don't want foreign refuges, asylum seekers in the country. Aren't asylum seekers supposed to seek asylum in the first country to which they escape? Cameron should also realise, again he probably does, that everything he does as PM will be challenged by the opposition, after all the opposition's job is to oppose.
If a member of this country were to appear in court he/she could be convicted on a technicality (car tyres 1mm lower than they should be, driving one mile per hour over the speed limit etc) then a technicality should be used against such asylum seekers.
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Why would Jews want Muslims everywhere? Aren't they enemies?
Think you need to lay off /Pol/ dude...
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I was about to post the same thing.
Listened to a bit of 5Live this morning and the question being asked was "How has the picture of the drowned toddler made you feel" and the few people I heard seemed very emotional and said we need to 'do more' and take more migrants.
Yet I don't see how even if we had completely open borders that this death, or deaths like it, would be prevented. If anything, like you say, it will make people trafficking more attractive resulting in more instances like this.
I'm not getting the link the more left-leaning media are making here between a child dying in the Aegean Sea and the UK opening its borders?
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What is /pol/
They want to end national identity in europe, its also a part of the european union goals. Which they are helping to encourage, its all a part of the larger movement of cultural marxism primarily in the west. Encouraged by the media and the left. Also its not so much "wanting muslims everywhere" it is more just saturating the west with foreigners to break up national identity.
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Good for you rilot, I should look into doing something similar.
In the past I have had an anti immigration stance, mainly because I think our borders are exploited by many people looking for an easy ride. But in the case of the refugee crisis, particularly what is going on in Syria right now, it seems so wrong that we are not helping these people. Adding to that in my opinion British foreign policy in the middle east has been a disgrace over the last decade and a half.
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For what gain?
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Agree with you completely, I posted something very similar earlier.
Unfortunately I cannot donate money, but if I could give my time to help then I would.
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It was so sad to see the young boy washed up on the beach in Turkey. I know we can't just let everyone into the EU without taking a big hit economically and exposing our country to more threats, but look at it from their perspective. If my country was being bombed into the stone age, I would want to escape with my family to somewhere safe.
Of course.
This is why there has to be something done, but I think the current way will not work long term.
Help people rebuild Syria? fantastic idea and the best. Will it ever happen? errrr probably not...
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Yup, and these are the best places for Syrian refugees. They will fit right in, it's their culture. No language barrier, no culture clashes etc.
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That is a bit off topic. I have discussed it before. Look up cultural marxism and you will see its was born out of a intellectual movement from a bunch of psychoanalysis experts at Frankfurt school. It grew out of the hate towards right wing whites attitude in world war 2, so the idea is to subtly and covertly break up any remaining white culture that remains through various social and psychophysical means. Encourage excessive immigration, encourage multiculturalism, encourage political correctness, negatively label anything white as racist, negatively portray white culture as racist and attack the nuclear family, the nuclear family being the foundation of western civilisation. Isreal on the other hand has strict border controls and the family remains a very important aspect of jewish culture. Basically they knew that western europe and northern europe could not be defeated by war, instead they will be defeated over time slowly using propaganda against their culture and breaking up the family.
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