The G sync trap...

Adam123

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Hi all,

So I need to replace my GTX 1070 Amp Extreme.

My initial plan was to wait until Nvidias 3000 series are out and get a 3070 or equivalent to last me a good while but things have changed.

I currently have a Dell S2716DG (so G-Sync, 1440p, 144hz) which I don't have any plans to swap to a freesync (and/or G-Sync) compatible one as that would be a £300+ expense.

I have ordered an RTX 2060 super for £390 almost as a temporary card but also happy to keep it for as long as possible. It can in theory go into her system when Ampere is out and prices drop a bit and I can upgrade, but currently the 5700xt is a very similar price and offers slightly higher performance.

Main use is COD and BF which are all about frame rate so I don't really mind dropping settings to hit high frame rates. My 1070 on COD Warzone seems to average about 80-90fps, a 2060 Super from my research will average around 120-130fps so I can't really complain as its essentially a 50% increase.

Not really sure where I'm going with this post to be honest but just feel a little trapped into G-Sync and as a result buying a lower performing card for the money.

My head is saying don't move away from adaptive frame rates as screen tearing is like so 2010 but my wallet and fps counter is saying 5700xt.

Given my situation, I assume everyone would just suck it up and stick with Nvidia soley for G-Sync?
 
Personally I don't see the 2060 as enough of an update from a 1070, certainly not to justify a 400 quid outlay. Particularly when you've got a Gsync monitor, a card capable of driving it to 80-90fps and a willingness to drop details to keep the performance levels up.


You bought into NVidia's closed ecosystem with a Gsync monitor, probably at a time when there wasn't any viable alternative. Now Gsync has opened up a little to include some adaptive sync monitors (LG 27GL850 for example) you could make a side grade to a monitor that supports both GPU vendor's offerings which would give you a new path. If you're happy to punt 400 quid on a GPU side grade... That said a S2716DG is still worth about 250-300 second hand, so not that painful an expenditure.
 
Cheers for the replies... Here is the background.

I'm currently building a full new tower (excluding GPU) to move from a 4690k at 4.5Ghz to a Ryzen 3600 as I'm currently CPU bound in Warzone/Breakpoint; 4 cores just aren't cutting it and I'm sick of the frame drops/stutters etc. This is going to be a stop gap CPU until 4000 series are out and drop in price as my upgrade cycle is around 5 years for tower and 2 for GPU.

The Plan was to hold onto my GTX 1070 and sell my mobo/ram/cpu etc to a friend on the cheap, bin the case and ancient PSU as there isn't much value in these (battered Corsair 230T and a RM650)...

But now my other half has decided she wants my full old tower to play her games (mainly Sims 4 as her laptop isn't great) so she'll also be needing a GPU as the HD 4600 isn't really a strong iGPU. This will be on her 4k work monitor.

This means I am now (give or take a week as I am waiting on the X570 Tomahawk to arrive) in a position to need a new GPU - which with Ampere on the horizon and Nvidias claims of a large performance increase makes it an awkward time to buy.

So I can either:

1) Buy her a cheap-ish card to use for Sims (like £100) and keep the 1070 in my PC until Ampere is out
2) Buy a 2060 super for £390 to use until it struggles then sell either the 1070/2060s and put one in her PC
3) Buy a 2070 super for £500 to use until it struggles and hope I can get a few more years out of it at which point likely sell this to put towards a new GPU.
4) An option I haven't considered but hoping someone has :)

Whats the smart play here then?
 
so the tl;dr version is that you need a full new computer right now?
kinda screwed then. this is the twilight of all the current gen parts. and with the price rises taking the mickey...
 
Doesn't g-sync mainly make a difference at lower FPS?

Frankly I'm not bothered, if AMD offers the price to performance I want when it comes up upgrade, I'll happily forego G-Sync.

It's the refresh rate, IQ and resolution I like, I can't really tell the difference when G-Sync is on.

EDIT: We're literally on the cusp of new products across the board. I wouldn't be spending a penny more than possible. If I had to have a card, it'd be something like a 970/980 off the MM.
 
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I would be buying a cheapish card or another 1070 to tide yourself over - you are going to lose more money reselling a £390 2060 super in 6 months time compared to a 6 month older 3 owner 1070 you picked up for £200 on the bay or elsewhere
 
No, I was just plain lucky bro.
ROG STRIX XG32VQ 32" 2560X1440 VA FREESYNC 144HZ GAMING WIDESCREEN 1800R CURVED LED MONITOR
We see some non-certified FreeSync monitors on that list are reported to work just fine with G-Sync. Other monitors have issues, while other monitors needed to be “tweaked” a little bit just to get G-Sync working with their FreeSync monitors. Taken from the net.

I am using the display port maybe this helps.
Also found out through experiments you can indeed use a 3 mtr display port cable with no problems
But I paid a few quid for mine.
 
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timmy222 said:
No, I was just plain lucky bro.
ROG STRIX XG32VQ 32" 2560X1440 VA FREESYNC 144HZ GAMING WIDESCREEN 1800R CURVED LED MONITOR
We see some non-certified FreeSync monitors on that list are reported to work just fine with G-Sync. Other monitors have issues, while other monitors needed to be “tweaked” a little bit just to get G-Sync working with their FreeSync monitors. Taken from the net.

I am using the display port maybe this helps.
Also found out through experiments you can indeed use a 3 mtr display port cable with no problems
But I paid a few quid for mine.
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Good for you man, that's awesome :) It would be nice if my x34p would work with FreeSync, and I'm guessing it perhaps could with both sides playing ball, but I won't hold my breath.
 
a lot of freesync monitors while not officially supported on any website do more often than not support g-sync.

Im using a Dell S2719DGF @ 155Hz on a RTX2080 which doesnt advertise g-sync compatibility but it works!......most of the time.
 
Adam123 said:
I currently have a Dell S2716DG (so G-Sync, 1440p, 144hz) which I don't have any plans to swap to a freesync (and/or G-Sync) compatible one as that would be a £300+ expense.
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The way that monitor is insanely overpriced (like 60% of the price) for TN as new, selling price would likely give FreeSync monitor for free.

VAs start from £260:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...een-led-backlit-gaming-monitor-mo-057-ao.html
And IPS models from £300:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/acer...r400-widescreen-gaming-monitor-mo-14b-ac.html


WantoN said:
Doesn't g-sync mainly make a difference at lower FPS?
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Improvement of any variable refresh rate tech is biggest when framerates are lower.
If monitor has high refresh rate and PC pushes good frame rate, problems from lack of variable refresh rate are less detectable.
 
EsaT said:
The way that monitor is insanely overpriced (like 60% of the price) for TN as new, selling price would likely give FreeSync monitor for free.
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I was looking at monitors recently and was blown away by it's price.

I remember way back when some members here picked it up for between £75ish and £250ish iirc.
 
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