The Great Hack (Netflix)

Deffo worth a watch but I can smell the bias from here, hopefully im utterly wrong.
 
Efour said:
Deffo worth a watch but I can smell the bias from here, hopefully im utterly wrong.
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If there was a well known 'lefty' equivalent of what happened between Cambridge Analytica and Trump/Brexit campaigns id agree, but as far as im aware there isn't so I'm not sure it's particularly biased beyond the odd opinion from the journalist lady. It was a huge story and the truth is that it was 2 high profile campaigns on the right which were involved in it... there's no way to sidestep that so naturally people on the right are probably going to find the documentary biased against 'their side' because it mainly focusses on 2 right wing campaigns benefiting from using Cambridge Analytica.

Id hope the average viewer is smart enough to realise that whilst it focusses on two right wing campaigns that this issue is not exclusive to the right in any way shape or form.

On a side note that Alexander Nix is proper bond villian material
 
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there's no way to sidestep that so naturally people on the right are probably going to find the documentary biased against 'their side' because it mainly focusses on 2 right wing campaigns benefiting from using Cambridge Analytica.
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They shouldn't as there's also sections where it focuses on how "Big Tech" harvests & manipulates data too, which would be helpful to the arguments from 'their side' regarding those companies and censorship.
 
Very interesting, scarey at the same time.

It's really hard to make a comment that I can properly explain how I think about the potential of this.

History has always had it's propaganda specialists, the church, the printerd media now the technical insanity of companies like Cambridge analytica, which im sure there are 100s more working for the "good guys"

It's tin foil hat time.

This is obviously aimed at stopping Trump getting re-elected. Like you say it's impossible to separate the message from the reality of what happened. Fake news and propaganda.


Yeah it's a weird time to be alive. A great documentry to summarize the whole event, but it's seems so fantastical I don't think normal people will actually comprehend it. It is crazy.

It's a Whole new level of civilization. These people involved are incredibly intelligent. Brittany kaiser, scarey. She seems to think she's spotless in all this.

Again.. very difficult to put it into intelligent words.

Why is there no daily outrage in the UK over the brexit result and the clear admission and influence that CA had in the refurendum?
 
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Err you fill in a survey and someone uses the data, you put a load of info on an easily accessible Web page and someone uses the data. Quite honestly what did you expect?

The fact that it didn't make it clear that this was happening is something else.
I would question the validity of the statements with regards to influencing elections, definitely had an agenda on trump and brexit, I couldn't bring myself to waste time watching it all.
 
Efour said:
Why is there no daily outrage in the UK over the brexit result and the clear admission and influence that CA had in the refurendum?
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Because people don't want to admit they were duped by fake/lying ads etc. There's plenty of outrage over Brexit, you just have to look at the mess parliament is in right now.

I haven't watched the film yet but I'm sure it's fascinating.

I watched this short TED talk yesterday in fact, from the journalist who published the CA leaks from Christopher Wylie. I'm guessing she features in this film?
 
Interesting that it was data gathered through the Obama campaign and subsequent Ted Cruz campaign that was used by the Trump team. I can see the data being gathered now being used in the future to really mess things up. It already happens with younger people who look to start certain careers but end up failing because of "data" help on them from a decade ago. Just glad that non of the crazy stuff I did as a youth <18 was ever recorded digitally :)

It's also a very very good reason why an ad block app is a must have :)
 
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Scam said:
Because people don't want to admit they were duped by fake/lying ads etc. There's plenty of outrage over Brexit, you just have to look at the mess parliament is in right now.

I haven't watched the film yet but I'm sure it's fascinating.

I watched this short TED talk yesterday in fact, from the journalist who published the CA leaks from Christopher Wylie. I'm guessing she features in this film?
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Just watched this very fascinating.
 
Scam said:
Because people don't want to admit they were duped by fake/lying ads etc. There's plenty of outrage over Brexit, you just have to look at the mess parliament is in right now.

I haven't watched the film yet but I'm sure it's fascinating.

I watched this short TED talk yesterday in fact, from the journalist who published the CA leaks from Christopher Wylie. I'm guessing she features in this film?
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Yep she's it it :)
 
Efour said:
Why is there no daily outrage in the UK over the brexit result and the clear admission and influence that CA had in the refurendum?
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https://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/johnson-government-using-cambridge-analytica-strategies/
you're aware it's happening again - well maybe

https://www.thenation.com/article/cambridge-analytica-facebook-hack/
All of this is garbage. Kaiser first worked in politics as an intern on the 2008 Barack Obama campaign, helping its social media team, but The Great Hack implies that she ran his whole Facebook operation. She is not the first person to pump a small role in that campaign into a career-making calling card;
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Here’s the bigger issue: When it comes to voters’ decisions about their choice of candidate, most forms of paid political persuasion, including TV ads, online ads, mailers, phone calls, and door knocking, have no discernible effect in terms of changing people’s minds. That’s the conclusion of a careful meta-review of 49 field experiments looking at general election campaigns, published by political scientists Joshua Kalla and David Broockman in the American Political Science Review in 2018. They write, “The circumstances in which citizens’ political choices appear manipulable appear to be exceedingly rare in the elections that matter most.” Of course, all the people making money from selling the tools of political persuasion don’t want anyone to know this. Why spoil a good racket?
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so, maybe its all an elaborate money making ploy.


BBC have already done some good documentaries on CA

I doubting it's up there as a drama with the Fifth estate, brexit film, silk road .. no well known actors either ... do Netflix make good documentaries (Our planet excepted)

need to re-open the GD X file on CA
 
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