The heat generated by a washing-machine-sized data centre is being used to heat a Devon public swimming pool

I dunno - maybe it is enough to maintain the temperature faster than it is cooling down once the pool is up to temperature.

Depending on how fast it is losing heat maybe it will get it there eventually just a bit slower than the normal heating.
 
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Seems a decent idea to transfer heat but I'm struggling to accept that a data centre this size supplies enough to heat up a swimming pool to 30 degrees / 60% of the time.

Media exaggeration?

No, I don't think so, though the stuff I read from the BBC on energy is often about "magic boxes called heat pumps."

This is a concept called 4G heat networks, which has existed in Scandinavia for decades. It's actually brilliant. The idea of 4G heat networks is that you "group" buildings with essentially opposing demand i.e., one with a high heating load (residential apartments), one with a high cooling demand (data centres) and they share energy: you provide warm water to the residential apartments which they use to heat, cooling it. Then you provide that cooled water to the offices, they use it for cooling and heat it, and then it goes back to the residential apartment block etc. Super-efficient.

In the UK, currently about 2% of properties are served using heat networks. The government are planning to grow that to 20% over the next couple of decades.

Heat networks are brilliant because they are designed to harness sources of waste heat. On a large scale, that's stopping heat rejection to the atmosphere by power stations and delivering it to local properties. On a smaller scale, that might be having a huge heat pump in a town centre with an electric boiler, which provides all the heat to the local residents, or a massive CHP (combined heat and power) which generates the electricity for the area with the waste product being heat, which locals can then use.

Basically, it's great. Now, whether the BBC has exaggerated or not, I don't know, but it sounds plausible. Swimming pools are fantastic thermal stores and are great for enabling low carbon technologies to thrive.

Edit: just realised it's the size of a washing machine. Sounds a bit wild. I guess they're getting great heat transfer with that mineral liquid, but as you say, seems an exagguration.
 
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A datacenter makes a LOT of heat. Try going in to even a small one after the AC fails.

A large volume of water holds heat for a
long time. It might take days to get up to temp but it should hold it once there. As long as it's indoors.
 
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A datacenter makes a LOT of heat. Try going in to even a small one after the AC fails.

A large volume of water holds heat for a
long time. It might take days to get up to temp but it should hold it once there. As long as it's indoors.
The ones that house mobile network infrastructure could probably heat a village or large greenhouse complex. The old NEC RNCs in Three UK’s test bed had a bunch of huge fans inside despite having cold air ducted in through the base of the enclosures and hot air extracted through the top. Sounded like a dozen Dysons trying to escape.

When the A/C failed, you had 10 minutes to switch everything off before it started melting.
 
A datacenter makes a LOT of heat. Try going in to even a small one after the AC fails.
This, when you think that a modern home CPU is using something like 90 watts, and a GPU can be using 300w under load and a server is typically a lot more compact whilst also typically running under higher loads than the average home system I can quite believe you've potentially got a few KW's of heat coming from a rack.
If you've built it to specifically take advantage of water cooling you can get a lot more "oomph" from the same space than an aircooled server.

So as others have said, it probably won't be enough to "heat" the pool from scratch (or not quickly), but potentially enough to maintain the temperature once it's up to heat, especially if the building is well insulated/has good glazing so you get some assistance from the sun.
IIRC they've used similar ideas with heat exchanges from servers to preheat water for the connected offices in some places for a while, as whilst it adds to the initial cost it saves on overall power consumption.
 
Back in my day we heated pools by peeing in them.
You joke...

I don't know if it's still there, but when I was a kid Wallingford had an outdoor swimming pool next to an equally large (if not larger) paddling pool, from memory the shallow paddling pool acted as a solar heating pond for the main pool with the water being exchanged between them at a steady rate (hopefully filtered after the paddling pool...).
IIRC the water from the swimming pool fell into the paddling pool via a series of shallow sloping "waterfalls", then got pumped out (and presumably filtered at this point*) of the large but shallow paddling pool and back into the swimming pool with a flow rate that probably meant it took quite a while to do a full exchange, thus allowing the water to be heated quite effectively by the sun, IIRC the kiddy pool was painted a mid/dark blue to assist in this.

My memories of it include the "bridge" across the paddling pool that was bare concrete and exceptionally slippery at a lot of the time, I seem to remember they put "textured" tiles and a handrail on it later on.

*no point filtering it before the kids:p
 
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There's a company offering home solutions based on a similar concept, basically you host a server at home which has been designed to attach to your hot water cylinder and give you free hot water, I meant to look at the maths a while back but never got around it it so I've no idea how feasible it it, certainly not for me anyway, don't think they'd appreciate my dire upload speeds lmao.


 
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Edit: just realised it's the size of a washing machine. Sounds a bit wild. I guess they're getting great heat transfer with that mineral liquid, but as you say, seems an exagguration.

Looking online energy use for a home pool is quoted as 8000 - 15000 kWh per year. I assume a public pool is on the higher end of that. Calculating the hourly power demand we find that gives an average demand of 1.7kW/hour. That doesn't seem at all unreasonable for a washing machine sized datacentre.
 
Looking online energy use for a home pool is quoted as 8000 - 15000 kWh per year. I assume a public pool is on the higher end of that. Calculating the hourly power demand we find that gives an average demand of 1.7kW/hour. That doesn't seem at all unreasonable for a washing machine sized datacentre.
A public pool at 25m will be a lot higher... if I'm looking at the same chart as you that's listing 100,000 litres as the pool size for that energy use, my local training pool is 25 x 12 x 1.2 which is 360,000 litres, an Olympic pool is 2,500,000 litres, my calculations (not mine as such lol, used this calc: https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/water-heating) show that to raise the temperature in my local 25m pool from 29 to 30 degrees C would take 419kw/h and that is not taking into account any heat loss, for a single degree warmer :eek: it's no wonder a lot of pools have turned the thermostat down to save a few quid!!!
 
The UK will **** it up we all know it. .

It will be council controlled and run on shoestring but it will work just, It will then get sold off by the Tory`s to some european country or the states (where the UK offsets their own countries needs). Where prices will rise service will go down and outages will be common place due to lack of preventative maintenance as a cost saving exercise then after 10-15 years closed down as its not efficient anymore as nothing got replaced.....
 
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my calculations (not mine as such lol, used this calc: https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/water-heating) show that to raise the temperature in my local 25m pool from 29 to 30 degrees C would take 419kw/h and that is not taking into account any heat loss, for a single degree warmer

Typo: you mean kWh not kW/h :) Yeah, heating it up takes a lot of power, but the real question is heat loss once it's got there - it's that you need to consistently supply. I can't find great numbers - since it seems to depend on two many factors, but this source gives typical total energy demand for public, indoor, swimming pools in Germany as about 350kWh per square metre per year but can be half that with some energy efficiency improvements. I think that's square metre of pool surface area, so for a 25x12 pool, I make that 105000kWh at the higher end. A lot more than I used in my calculation, but still that's 12kW/h of heating demand. The article says they're going to get 60% of their heat from the data centre so 7.2kW/h. Higher, but still seems plausible to me. If it's all oil cooled it can presumably be pretty tightly packed in there.
 
A public pool at 25m will be a lot higher... if I'm looking at the same chart as you that's listing 100,000 litres as the pool size for that energy use, my local training pool is 25 x 12 x 1.2 which is 360,000 litres, an Olympic pool is 2,500,000 litres, my calculations (not mine as such lol, used this calc: https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/water-heating) show that to raise the temperature in my local 25m pool from 29 to 30 degrees C would take 419kw/h and that is not taking into account any heat loss, for a single degree warmer :eek: it's no wonder a lot of pools have turned the thermostat down to save a few quid!!!

If your swimming in 30C water your not training for long, thats far to hot, 25 or 26
 
The UK will **** it up we all know it. .

It will be council controlled and run on shoestring but it will work just, It will then get sold off by the Tory`s to some european country or the states (where the UK offsets their own countries needs). Where prices will rise service will go down and outages will be common place due to lack of preventative maintenance as a cost saving exercise then after 10-15 years closed down as its not efficient anymore as nothing got replaced.....

Most are privately run
 
Seems a decent idea to transfer heat but I'm struggling to accept that a data centre this size supplies enough to heat up a swimming pool to 30 degrees / 60% of the time.

Depends on what the power draw of the unit is.

It takes a 1kw heater 1 hour to raise 1 ton (220 gallons) of water by 1 degree.

I imagine its not the sole heating system being used here, more likely being used to maintain / assist a standard gas fired heat exchanger.
 
If your swimming in 30C water your not training for long, thats far to hot, 25 or 26
It was a random temp I picked, the pool isn't that warm, at least not recently. A few years back the thermostat broke and it was 35c at one point, I managed about 50 meters before giving up and half of that was due to needing to get back to the other end lmao, one guy actually swam 1000m in it, no idea how he didn't need an ambulance after!
 
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