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Is 3g iphone with a proper camera.

Obviously this doesnt exist, whats the next best thing ?

I love the iphones interface, the big screen, and the ease with which it browses proper websites

but i just know the iphone 2 will come out with the above. Just wait for that or is there something else just as much of a joy to use ?
 
A Symbian/Nokia based phone with Apple in charge of the GUI and Nokia making the technology/ideas.

Purely touch screen doesnt do it for me, qwerty isnt necessary and takes up valuable space (unless you want to carry a brick around) so a standard keypad.

I am looking forward to the iphone2, I might well consider etting one - especially as S60 touch doesnt seem like its going to be all that impressive/much different (when this is the time it needs an absolute overhall/kick in the ass).
 
MrLOL said:
Is 3g iphone with a proper camera.
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3G with built-in GPS and (ideally) ActiveSync. Businesses would lap it up, ordinary people would like it... I'd like to see the meeting where Steve Jobs asked Bill Gates how much an ActiveSync licence would cost...

MrLOL said:
Obviously this doesnt exist, whats the next best thing ?
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HTC TyTN II (T-Mobile Vario III, O2 Stellar etc)

MrLOL said:
I love the iphones interface, the big screen, and the ease with which it browses proper websites
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Having had a play, it is a very nice bit of kit. Mobile Safari is the mutts nuts. Seriously cool.

MrLOL said:
but i just know the iphone 2 will come out with the above. Just wait for that or is there something else just as much of a joy to use ?
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The Register thinks May 2008 for 3G
 
Its quite a polarity, you've the feature rich Nokia phones (excellent 5mp camera, GPS, high storage, 3rd party symbia apps) but they lack touch screens, and they never seem to have large enough screens either

You've then got the HTC phones, again with touchscreens, but they arent feature rich. The cameras are terrible, and browsing on them is terrible too. They seem painfully slow (least my TyTn is)

And then you've got the iphone. Joy to use, perfect example of a proper reasearched UI. Pinnacle of usability. But no gps, no 3g, and no camera.

Like i said, i (like the rest of the world) would love it if we could have a 3G iphone, with a nokia 5mp camera and xenon flash, and an inbuilt GPS receiver. I'd buy it now

but i just know that it will have the same poor camera and no GPS :(
 
After 2 months of use I still cannot fault my N95 8gb as an allround device. It doesnt replace a dedicated TomTom unit, Camera or PC but it can "fill in" when I need one of those tools. It also works pefectly as a phone.
 
Rhys said:
After 2 months of use I still cannot fault my N95 8gb as an allround device. It doesnt replace a dedicated TomTom unit, Camera or PC but it can "fill in" when I need one of those tools. It also works pefectly as a phone.
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How do you find the battery life with the 8gb model?
 
nade said:
How do you find the battery life with the 8gb model?
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Not sure really. I usually charge it at night and also have a charger in my car so it doesnt really have chance to wear out. I wouldnt say it has a good battery life though as sometimes it has died on me when I assumed it should have plenty of charge.
 
MrLOL said:
You've then got the HTC phones, again with touchscreens, but they arent feature rich. The cameras are terrible, and browsing on them is terrible too. They seem painfully slow (least my TyTn is)
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If htc devices aren't feature rich then I don't know what is.
 
Energize said:
If htc devices aren't feature rich then I don't know what is.
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It's depends on your point of view.

As business devices, they're unparalleled. They have push e-mail, Pocket Office, lots of 3rd party software, a board range of connectivity and usually a QWERTY keyboard.

However, as multimedia devices, they're poor. Cameras are of poor quality, the amount of built-in memory is small, there's no 3.5mm headphone socket usually, A2DP performance is ropey, PIE is rubbish, WMP is rubbish, there's no Mac support and so forth.

Everyone has different priorities, but the iPhone has certainly focused attention towards the multimedia end of the market.
 
There are superb media players eg coreplayer that support almost every format, browsers eg opera-mini and you can get add ons to make IE decent, a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor is 5p and they come with sd cards, and pocketmac allows you to sync with os x, so none of those are issues for anyone. The only thing I agree with is that on earlier models the camera is bad.
 
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There are superb media players eg coreplayer that support almost every format, browsers eg opera-mini and you can get add ons to make IE decent, a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor is 5p and they come with sd cards, and pocketmac allows you to sync with os x, so none of those are issues for anyone. The only thing I agree with is that on earlier models the camera is bad.
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There's definitely solutions but they come at extra expense - both in time and money. It's a lot of extra hassle that most consumers don't want. And that's before you get onto issues with video drivers.
 
New htc video drivers have been created and are scheduled for release next month. You are over exaggerating the hassle, it takes about a minute to download and install these programs. Anyone buying a htc or other ppc device is going to be technically competent.
 
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There's definitely solutions but they come at extra expense - both in time and money. It's a lot of extra hassle that most consumers don't want. And that's before you get onto issues with video drivers.
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Not forgetting the bulk of the form factor and the sluggishness of the OS. the HTC's are good pda's with phones attached, Nokia/SE's are good phones with pda like functionality attached.
 
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