*** The iPhone 3G Thread ***

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I guess someone better start the thread, I'm fully expecting a lot of people won't care and a load more wouldn't even care if it made their tea and performed other "services" but hey ho..

It looks impressive!

3G
thinner
longer batter (200hrs standby, 10hr talktime, 5hr browsing, 24hr music)
GPS!

Somehow managed to get 3G running faster than on other 3G phones too.. impressive!

The announcements are still coming though, he's not done his "just one more thing" bit yet :)

Best bit is they haven't radically changed the design so I'll be happy with my first gen 8GB for a while I reckon :)
 
Oh and a bucketload of new apps which look good.. just need to see if they're going to persist with their bonkers commercial strategy now or get down and dirty with the freebies and discounters.

Maybe stop being so ridiculous about locking etc too.. hmmmmm :D
 
hmpf

11:45 am $299 for the 16GB -- a white version of this size will be available too.
11:45 am Now on to the final challenge -- affordability. Started at $599 for an 8GB iPhone, now $399. The iPhone 3G 8GB will sell for... $199.
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The iPhone 3G will be available July 11th in 22 countries. The maximum price around the world is $199 USD
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I wonder if that means a straight translation to £ plus VAT? That would mean the new 8GB launching at maximum £117.50 give or take which is slightly more reasonable as long as you don't have to sign up to some onerous contract and downright fantastic if you can take it home and unlock/jailbreak it and ditch the contract altogether :D
 
I've been in the mobile industry for over 10yrs and to be honest whilst I was sceptical when I saw the paper specs and baffled when I saw the pricing of the original I must admit having one now I'd have to agree.. it's an awesome phone.

Things like the N95 actually FEEL feature heavy and I just get a bit bored of it all but the iphones simplicity and completeness (great way to describe it!) has thoroughly won me over. I'm now as attached as I am to my ipod :)
 
jdickerson said:
Why both?
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I've had an ipod for probably 3 or 4 years now, only got the iphone about 2 months ago.

I have about 50gb on my ipod but I'm currently eyeing up whether I actually need it or not, I came to the conclusion today though that for the sake of the £100 or so I'd get for my current ipod I'd probably regret NOT having it and ultimately go and buy another when I wind up without the iphone which is gonna happen someday.

I tend to change phone about 4 or 5 times a year so as in love as I am, if SE or nokia or whatever give me something shiny then the iphone might well go.

I have 2 phones and for the last year the one that hasn't changed has been an SE P1i, that might well become the iphone whilst the other changes several times.

That said my wife is due a new contract so I might give her my k850 and get another iphone :D how pimp (sad) would that be!
 
that iPhone only in the apple forum is utterly ridiculous, its a PHONE. The clue is in the name.

Sounds like there's someone been drinking too much red bull in there LOL
 
apparently 2mm shorter and a whole 0.5mm (woohh :)) thinner.

Impressive, especially with extra functionality and battery power.
 
free on £45.. that sticks it bang in N95 8GB territory and given it has the 8GB, 3G and GPS now its only the camera that its lacking which to a lot of people (myself included) means nothing, I just don't do photos..

I can expect we'll see these things explode now and be everywhere.

However that said its still only o2 which is a bit of a pain... now they've moved to a subsidy model I don't see why it has to be network exclusive for any reason other than vanity for the network.
 
yak.h'cir said:
I can't believe there's no video calling on it :(
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sorry but quite literally who, other than I guess you and whoever you call, cares?

I literally live in the industry and I've never, ever been video called other than years and years ago by a mate who realised we both had early 3g phones so gave it a go.

The novelty lasted about 30 seconds and that was it.

Video calling imo is the biggest waste of time ever and I'm actually GLAD apple have acknowledged this.
 
an N95 is completely better to use IF you make use of the 5mp camera, mms, video etc

there's a suprising amount of us out there that don't!

I would like to have bluetooth transfers, A2DP and AVRCP, I would also like them to get a bit less precious about ringtones. Those are the only, relatively small, issues to me.

I'll totally admit its not the most all singingest phone, sometimes it feels like they made it just for meeeeeeee :)
 
the word on the street is the prepay 8GB will be £350.

http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/O2_takes_box_breaking_precautions_on_3G_iPhone.html

and to be perfectly honest we (the people who bought the v1 and never connected it) have ourselves to thank :)

Actually thats not quite true, the problem is in search of unlocking/jailbreaking we have inadvertantly opened the iphone up to massive box breaking issues which I'm sure they are going to stamp on quite hard this time.

That said.. £350 for a prepay iphone... is that so bad? the standard N95 is £379
 
Stinky said:
if i was now to register my sim card (from the v1) and start a £45 contract (thinking of going back to contract anyway) whats stopping me then going into O2 picking up my free V2 and then selling that on ebay whilst keeping my original V1.

pocket myself £400??
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possibly nothing but I'd read the small print VERY carefully :)
 
you know, this locking business is actually.. if I remember correctly.. totally illegal.

And if not illegal it's certainly very close to it, something to do with restricting you from using the service that you wish IF you have paid for the handset. Hence why prepay handsets and end of contract handsets pretty much HAVE to be able to be unlocked.

Oftel (as it was) stipulated that operators could charge an admin fee of no more than £35 iirc.

So really once they launch a prepay version you should be able to purchase AND unlock it perfectly legitimately.

That said Apple don't strike me as being terribly interested or concerned with legalities or the "normal" way of doing business.

In fact I'm quite happy they've gone down the subsidy route, regardless of how its chopped off one route to a reasonably priced iphone and no matter how they dress it up as consumer choice it does go to show they badly misjudged the UK market which is quite arrogant tbh.

Baffling also in the sense that a "free" iphone does give them a much bigger chance of taking an even bigger chunk of the MP3 market along with a phat chunk of the mobile market and lets be honest, more of us have mobiles than mp3 players and lots more of us have mp3 player than have ibooks/macbooks etc.

Bottom line is the iphone is their route to world domination.
 
oh no.. ignore me

from wiki

In the United Kingdom, cellphone network providers don't have to provide unlocking codes at all even after the end of the contract --- see O2's position of not providing unlocking codes for the iPhone at the end of the contract. The alternative to an unlocked handset is a sim free mobile phone. A sim free mobile phone is a phone that comes unlocked and is not branded on any network such as Vodafone, O2, Orange etc.
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I thought they'd changed it and would have happily referenced Vodafones recent relaxing of locking regulations.

That said I do think its a bit of a silly idea anyway, all you do is push your customers towards market stalls and backstreet dealers who are more than happy to sell fake/grey accessories, unregistered prepay sims and box broken handsets.

It all seems a bit counter productive.

If you knew the lengths some of these networks go to combating box breaking you'd possibly be shocked.
 
jailbreaking isn't the same as unlocking though is it? they could sell it unlocked all day long but still lock it down to no 3rd party apps??

to be honest I did the whole freebie unlock/jailbreak thing via this very forum and it was such a non issue that I never paid much attenion to what jailbreaking actually meant.

I have to say if I didn't have the facility to just wander onto my install icon and drift through thousands of apps or if I didn't have mahjong or poof or summerboard or my own ringtones or wetool etc etc then the whole iphone experience would be much less wonderful for me.

This really is how it ought to be and yes the whole push email and syncing thing might be handy but they can shove it if it means I lose my freedoms.

Actually I'd be using it as my work phone if the signal was anywhere near good enough.. where my P1i pulls 1 or 2 bars and can handle calls fine and certainly long enough to get to the window (on company vodafone sim but in a bad area and our windows have some sort of coating that kills the signal, ironic for a mobile phone company) my iphone is way too flakey, if its in my pocket the signal (again vodafone for my personal line) is very patchy.

I said to a good mate today it does everything exceptionally well except being a mobile phone and that suits ME just fine :)
 
GuruJockStrap said:
I'm flying out to Italy on the 6th July.

I fly back to the UK on the 11th July at 14:00.

Do I make the trip into town that morning and attempt to pick one up? I remember reading that they are unlocked as standard due to some European ruling?

Do you reckon the UK PAYG prices will be cheaper or considerably more? Damn the strong Euro and weak pound!
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its specific countries where its available unlocked at a significantly higher price to get round some unlocking regs. iirc that was germany.
 
nimz said:
From O2.co.uk;

"Upgrade to iPhone 3G
Existing O2 customers can also switch to iPhone 3G. We'll contact you when you're eligible for an upgrade and talk you through the best options."
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I take that to mean "when you're due an upgrade we'll try and sell you an iphone" to be honest, nothing to do with getting to the back of the queue, it says when you're eligable for an upgrade not when you're eligable for an upgrade to the iphone.

nimz said:
I'm sure the first iPhone release, anyone with O2 could end their current contract and start a new iPhone one.
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I'm pretty sure you're mistaken mate! They weren't letting people ditch contracts part way through for an iphone were they??
 
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